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Date:      Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:58:23 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>, Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, developers@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   troff vs. DocBook (was: Request for submissions: FreeBSD Bi-Monthly Development Status Report (fwd))
Message-ID:  <20020722002823.GB69834@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <82745.1027266137@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20020721141108.GA30472@luke.immure.com> <82745.1027266137@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Sunday, 21 July 2002 at 17:42:17 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20020721141108.GA30472@luke.immure.com>, Bob Willcox writes:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:32:13AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder how true that is these days. The last time I used nroff was for my
>>> masters thesis which was in 1990! Does anyone except man page maintainers
>>> still use it in earnest?
>>
>> As I understand it, W. Richard Stevens wrote all of his books in troff.
>> Of course he died a few years back so is no longer using it. But my
>> guess is that were he still alive today, he'd still be using troff.
>
> And until somebody shows me a way to edit DocBook where 8% of my screen
> estate isn't occupied by the XML tags, I'll probably be using [nt]roff
> as well.

IMO the tags aren't the problem with DocBook.  It's just *really*
difficult to get good-looking results with.  I've actually converted
the FreeBSD book into DocBook (anybody want a perl script?), but jade
can't format it, and gmat is a real kludge.  Theoretically, DocBook is
better, but I want something that works.

Greg
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