From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 09:49:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3E7106568D for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (77-93-215-190.static.masterinter.net [77.93.215.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0628FC1E for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40FA9CB04D; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:49:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lev.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HsV7Jb9tOQ7z; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:49:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F36A9CB04F; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:49:13 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0E9nDlZ070912; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:49:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:49:13 +0100 From: Roman Divacky To: Maxim Sobolev Message-ID: <20090114094913.GA70285@freebsd.org> References: <20090113044111.134EC1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20090113222023.GA51810@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <496D1ED6.4090202@FreeBSD.org> <200901132356.40820.ken@mthelicon.com> <496D64A0.1090309@FreeBSD.org> <496DB2FB.6020406@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496DB2FB.6020406@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:49:35 -0000 > IMHO it seems highly unlikely that some new kid on the block like llvm > will be able to answer our problems. The argument that "it's good for > Apple, it should be good for us" to me seems to be little out of touch > with reality. First of all, Apple cares about significantly lesser > number of architectures. They don't have IA64, Sparc or MIPS, they will > probably drop PPC soon. Second, they have a capacity (read "big money") > to port compiler to a new architecture, fix it as needed or extend it to > support some features provided by never chips if they need to. We don't > have that capacity. llvm currently supports: X86 Sparc PowerPC Alpha IA64 ARM Mips CellSPU PIC16 XCore CBackend MSIL CppBackend