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Date:      Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
To:        Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020904205445.C38687-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20020904230808.4c76a744.yid@softhome.net>

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On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Joshua Lee wrote:

> > It's because if you supply your own definition of "simple", Occam's
> > razor can be used to prove anything.
>
> No, it cannot be used to prove *anything*; only that which may be
> reduced to definitions and terms consistent with simplicity and
> complexity, with the former affirmed and the latter rejected. That
> having been said, it was a fairly strong early argument against medieval
> scholasticism. (The only answer the Catholic church seemed to have for
> it and other arguments against scholasticism was to declare Thomism
> sacrosanct; until Vatican II partially reversed this position.)

Allow me to give a demonstration of what I am talking about.
A naturalist would insist that "natural" explanations are
the simplist, no matter how complex the details.  On the
other hand, a supernaturalist would claim the exact opposite,
although he cannot even begin to explain *how* God does the
things that he does.

Neal



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