From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 24 17:24:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 72oot.net (72oot.net [216.122.237.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF0C37B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 72oot.net (12-228-94-66.client.attbi.com [12.228.94.66]) by 72oot.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g5P0OJP87745 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:24:19 GMT (envelope-from freedom@72oot.net) Message-ID: <3D175594.7020506@72oot.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:23:32 +0000 From: Ryan M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gnome2 References: <3D1722E1.1000706@72oot.net> <200206241435.36675.djohnson@acuson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Johnson David wrote: >On Monday 24 June 2002 06:47 am, Ryan M wrote: > > >>How come gnome.org seem to be obtuse and outdated? >> >> > >As a KDE fan, my opinions are strong on this subject, but I will refrain from >commenting... > I am using KDE to write this, but I like to see if there is something better. > > > >>When i installed gnome2 on 4.6 release about half way through I got a >>dialogue stating GDM is insecure, but you have to install it to >>continue? There should be a way around this, but i could not find it, >>oohh well. i dont use it anyway... >> >> > >Does it say *why* it's insecure? If it's because it's a suid executable, then >there's not much you can do about it except not run it. Several X programs >fall into this category. I believe XDM and KDM are suid as well. > The Why was vague, in searching on it I was able to find a announcement from April 2002: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2002-April/msg00031.html ..." Note4: Distributors, packagers. PLEASE DO NOT PACKAGE AND DISTRIBUTE THIS VERSION AS STABLE SOFTWARE. It's not stable. It's broken. And it runs as root. You get the idea. "... > > > >>I see in their Release roadmap that every new version breaks >>compatibility with the previous. >> >> > >This is due to their decentralized release process and lack of project >cohesion. Every GNOME subproject has its own release schedule, dependencies >and version. It can be very hard for a GNOME newbie to figure out. As one >example, it's why some GNOME stuff requires imlib and others require >gdkpixbuf. You've heard the saying "like trying to herd cats". Well, GNOME >developers are like a bunch of cats with the release manager playing the >pitiful role of cat herder. > >David > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > Cat herder is close to it, My only question is how did it end up this way in ports? and if I can update the package 2.2.5.5?, but that is for some where else. Ryan M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message