From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Aug 27 21:31:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C2C9C4EF0 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crodr001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x232.google.com (mail-yk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 254E115A; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crodr001@gmail.com) Received: by ykfw73 with SMTP id w73so34833395ykf.3; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=s75fN4+09UEqk2zym93LxO7R3s/uFiRqX3FVQGjZ4mU=; b=WJZ7G0gxVTwKKyy1MYcqdvPqVAW8oavPBlcMc8Fo3xoVjMymw7+Vl8XbJNldVILqdC XkuXgGR91Jjebd74lVe+J9RKLS4ZfGZdvBklB0ZZAc7lexGrUZEvUtsor/fGeAYudfpP uFEYaLU3MsmOyEjIvrNh1FkFVwB7Q1J8kA81/F/zCBjwMbK0uuk2lmrjMvZAfZYVyTN/ ASWJ8djBm2tI1DTFI/Dgokv8O4azLcg69OKcbyIYIUYJBhNODrUfalcuE5uz2aQsxeFI FzNYvw5cldk94IuB81Io4Vxt61gkyycSvRFhW1n2u6a+zOP1J6dl8QB84jwAyxB+vJD4 vyVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.194.2 with SMTP id e2mr5544010ywd.73.1440711081361; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.37.99.3 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55DE8791.30803@freebsd.org> References: <55DE8791.30803@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:31:21 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CopvYA69JGZ7-y0fJ1QOuFY1i-0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ramblings.. or not From: Craig Rodrigues To: Julian Elischer Cc: freebsd-current X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 01:20:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:31:22 -0000 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > I just enjoyed the following video. > > http://nextbsd.org/jordan-hubbard-visits-bafug/ > > That is a very good video. It is good to see the NextBSD folks pushing the boundaries and innovating with BSD. A lot of the Apple technologies have been battle tested by millions of users, so if FreeBSD can benefit from them....why not? > Do we have a standard path for ideas from these projects and DragonFly? > >From what I can tell, there is no "official" standard path for getting anything into FreeBSD. Ideally, people should bring up ideas and discuss things on the mailing lists beforehand. That usually happens, but not always. At the end of the day, getting things into FreeBSD involves someone with a commit bit, who is motivated to slam the code into the tree. Occasionally there are problems, but for the most part, things seem to work out, and we've gotten cool things like ZFS, Dtrace, Netmap, etc. At the end of Jordan's video, he mentioned that while it took him a while to get accustomed to git, he realizes that git and git ecosystems like GitHub greatly facilitate interacting with an open source project. Forking, submitting patches, etc. are greatly > > We should also do a better job of productising and incorporating GSOC > work.. > > Definitely! It's sad to see people put a lot of working into something via GSOC, and then have the work die on the vine once the summer is over. > Maybe we should make the "ideas" page more mainline. Where people can put > in a more standard way links to their pet projects and "offically" submit > work for inclusion. > and then make it better known.. > > I've been working with a software developer in Egypt, Ahmed Kamal, who has helped me a lot with devops issues in the Jenkins cluster. Ahmed attended BSDCan this year and is eager to help out. Many thanks to FreeBSD Foundation for giving him a travel grant! One comment that Ahmed made to me, and also to the FreeBSD Foundation, is that for a complete newcomer to FreeBSD, it is very difficult for a newcomer to navigate all our web pages and wikis, and figure out where they can jump in and contribute to the project. The FreeBSD project could definitely work to improve this area, in order to attract new blood and new ideas to the project. Streamlining the ideas page would be a good start. -- Craig