Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:33:17 -0700 From: "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jordanhubbard@me.com>, Bill Sorenson <instructionset@gmail.com>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> Subject: Re: Sparc64 support Message-ID: <CAHM0Q_M_RVXJr%2BN_EbctuurV3mijuUan3Ov%2BOiwU9WMGdS61zw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomzV0YKQwenwSZv6fMAOUP8TmPs-oyQaM8KTF7Ndhv_%2Bw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CACcTwYmS1c5uoO-WiJQDwgqYAevX7WZ7ZrP297hnOu7cNET3CA@mail.gmail.com> <mq3sg1$bno$1@ger.gmane.org> <CACcTwYnU=E-6sV3yLh3yKUSPZOg7967XV5ToXoSVPuNfOjF7hQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAHM0Q_NEYWxpHCwEdytfY6i9%2BRO2BebezzmenfQ_1c4u7zGrgg@mail.gmail.com> <CACcTwY=DcUREt5nJWo_eJfrB=3sQXBaS6nc%2B07fpZhxARD0zTQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150809215403.GC20238@server.rulingia.com> <6C12EBFE-EAA9-4C12-9F03-1CB2C28C4A6E@me.com> <CACcTwYktQRTqVSr7PRr5huwbVXVu6oCy26TKiAxzf2NiGAcocA@mail.gmail.com> <51EEBC6E-5D85-439D-874D-D223EE045515@me.com> <CAJ-VmomzV0YKQwenwSZv6fMAOUP8TmPs-oyQaM8KTF7Ndhv_%2Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > What's missing is someone funding / finishing the push to external > toolchain support for all platforms. > > What's also missing a little bit here is the tier-1-ness of the > external toolchain support by the people using/developing other > toolchains. > > It's basically there. There are some rough edges, but since the > compiler-developer people aren't using it and the non-x86-building > people aren't being forced to use it, the development inches along > very slowly. > > If you'd like to erm, "rush" this along, we should actively start the > "deorbit gcc-4.2 by freebsd-11" and "disconnect gcc-4.2 from the -head > build" movement now, get those bits done, and start arm-twisting to > get the last bits finished. > You've basically answered the question yourself: if FreeBSD developers want this to actually happen there needs to be a simple agreement that gcc users have either switched to an external toolchain by the current best case date for -11 or their respective architectures will be removed from HEAD. They're of course welcome to maintain it in a branch in svn or git. It's ultimately the responsibility for maintainers of the individual architectures to make their platforms an asset and not a liability. -K
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