Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:17:24 -0800 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> To: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@FreeBSD.org>, Devin Teske <devin@shxd.cx>, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org> Cc: "rgrimes@freebsd.org" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, "cem@freebsd.org" <cem@freebsd.org>, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/spongeusr.bin/sponge/tests usr.bin/tee Message-ID: <20171205171721.73E1C2D8@spqr.komquats.com>
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What side effects? Can you give one or two examples, please? --- Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. This old phone only supports top post. Apologies. Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. --- -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Giffuni Sent: 05/12/2017 08:40 To: Cy Schubert; Devin Teske; Hans Petter Selasky Cc: rgrimes@freebsd.org; cem@freebsd.org; Eitan Adler; src-committers; svn-= src-all@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/spongeusr.bin/sponge/= tests usr.bin/tee On 05/12/2017 11:29, Cy Schubert wrote: Why not update sed to create the backup file only if the suffix is given to= -i, like gnu sed does. No, no .. there have been several failed attempts at that that cause nasty= side effects. It is also a rather non-standardish thing to do. Pedro. --- Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. This old phone only supports top post. Apologies. Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. --- From: Devin Teske Sent: 05/12/2017 07:35 To: Hans Petter Selasky Cc: rgrimes@freebsd.org; cem@freebsd.org; Eitan Adler; src-committers; svn-= src-all@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/sponge usr.bin/sponge= /tests usr.bin/tee > On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org> wrote: >=20 >> On 12/05/17 13:58, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> Further more, why does freebsd need this in base? >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I think this is useful. It could replace the "-i " (intermediate) option = for "sed" for example. It avoids creating temporary files when filtering fi= les, right? >=20 > --HPS >=20 Wth is wrong with: data=3D$( sed -e '...' somefile ) && =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD echo "$dat= a" > somefile or set -e data=3D... echo "$data" > ... or exec 3<<EOF $( ... ) EOF cat > ... <&3 or (I digress) Infinite variations, but the gist is that sponge looks to be trying to hel= p sh(1)/similar when help is unneeded. Why buffer data into memory via fork-exec-pipe to sponge when you can buff= er to native namespace without pipe to sponge? Am I missing something? Why do we need sponge(1)? --=20 Devin =
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