Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:06:17 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster? Message-ID: <CAN6yY1ukz_gn3Ny4J52qoq0KjGmvDxLEZrBenXPA7o-YC%2BHSyg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <BN6PR2001MB17309E4F64000C0C00DA086D807F0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> References: <81D84A650858BA40BF6936408052E6BC0138263988@msgdb11.utad.utoledo.edu> <k20i-pniy-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20170929182305.GE86601@home.opsec.eu> <20170929183448.GA175@gmail.com> <77334fc4-b64e-45ed-a443-4076e47acee3@BY2NAM03FT029.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com> <BN6PR2001MB173012B1DBBC7BB0A900DAA2807E0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <COL004-MC4F55p68V8z000ac00b@COL004-MC4F55.hotmail.com> <BN6PR2001MB17309E4F64000C0C00DA086D807F0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote: > > Excuse my ignorance, but why was John Marino exiled? > > Not to state any opinion of my own, but John had his commit bit pulled after a long mail dialog about the utility of synth as a complete replacement for all older port updating tools save poudriere. It was claimed that John's messages were abusive and in violation of the FreeBSD "Code of Conduct". It is unclear to me whether this was in regard to pots to the mailing lists or included private responses to the mail list discussions. Core reviewed the messages and agreed that they were unacceptable. John disagreed and declined to retract his statements, so Core voted to withdraw his commit bit. The public details are available in the mail archives. John did state that he would continue to support synth. I can't say if he has continued to make contributions. In any case, only poudriere is available for maintaining ports in HEAD and I, for one, feel that it is simply unacceptable as it make FreeBSD unusable for those of us with only "small" systems where the weight poudriere simply can't be justified. (I have no system with other than SATA disk drives and, for my current needs, 1 TB of SATA on my development system and .5TB on my production system is adequate. Both systems are physically constrained in expansion capability, though otherwise easily meet my requirements. As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from FreeBSD after an using it for over 2 decades. I certainly hope that this is not what happens. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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