From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:00:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF21065676; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837488FC08; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 79CF18C07F; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:40:55 -0500 To: Maxim Sobolev Message-ID: <20080824034055.GB12515@soaustin.net> References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@FreeBSD.org, Peter Jeremy , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:00:42 -0000 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 06:52:07PM -0700, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue > is lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). My understanding is the the port is in a pre-alpha state due to unfinished work in the kernel, so expecting there to be any userbase is premature. All of our 'new' architectures which are in this state have so few non- developer users that there is hardly any reason to submit PRs. AFAICT the active developers already know what's missing :-) Our implementation of GNATS barely serves us as a problem report system; it fails almost completely as a system for listing missing features. We would need to have something like that to track the status of the non- Tier-1 ports. (I used to maintain a table of how feature-complete the various ports are, but it is now way out of date.) mcl