From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 11 23: 3:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A198F150AF for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA67832; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:03:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:03:27 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200001120703.XAA67832@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: "Dave J. Boers" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still system hangs, but different References: <20000112054825.436AB61@pinyon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :%:I have. :% :% Wait a sec. I've reviewed all the messages from you and I think something :% got mixed together. I'm not convinced that your particular problems :% are softupdates related. I recommend turning off softupdates entirely :% for a few days to find out. : :Oh they are quite surely softupdates related. : :I got the "X still sorta works but anything that touches the disk wedges" :flu today on a very current current. Triggered by a cc build on :(soft) linked filesystem, cured by reverting back a week or so. : :And yes, it is quite certainly v. 1.47 and ata. : :NBD..., if it was a real barrier to progress I'd disable softupdates. : :Regards, :Russell I think what we need to concentrate on is figuring out exactly what is being wedged on. Hence my DDB suggestion below. Reverting to an old -current doesn't guarentee that it's softupdates. If you turn off softupdates with tunefs on the filesystems and see if it occurs with a new kernel that will tell us for sure. (But the DDB suggestion is more important, that will tell us exactly what is going on). :% I recommend enabling DDB in the kernel config. The next time it locks :% up switch to the console (if you were in X) - which should work - and :% then ctl-alt-esc into DDB. From there do a 'ps' and see if any processes :% are stuck in weird states. :% -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message