From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 9 09:39:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F3916A41F for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: from neo.samodelkin.net (samodelkin.net [195.62.0.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D7B43D45 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:39:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: by neo.samodelkin.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6122A17022; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:39:20 +0600 (NOVT) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:39:20 +0600 From: Max Khon To: Marcin Jessa Message-ID: <20051109093920.GA45506@samodelkin.net> References: <20051108232855.2d1b7df5.lists@yazzy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051108232855.2d1b7df5.lists@yazzy.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Generic Kernel API X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:39:23 -0000 Hi! On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 11:28:55PM +0000, Marcin Jessa wrote: > I just came across an article of Mr. Greg Kroah-Hartman in his blog > http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/11/03/ > about generic kernel API which could make it possible for hardware > vendors to supply us with their own drivers. > To be honest I disagree with Greg and consider this a good idea. > Especially if we had a system which could isolate each device driver > running as a separate user-mode process so it would not bring down the > entire OS in case the driver was buggy. > An API like that would both boost up FreeBSD's popularity and make it > possible to use a way larger variety of hardware. > I mean, lets not fool ourselves, the majority of hardware vendors is > not interested in revealing of their secrets publishing freely > avaliable documentation of their products. > We could have a new choice to use (or not) binary drivers the > same way the popular commercial O.Ss do. > What do you guys think? What is the view of the > FreeBSD community on this metter? > Could this be concerned as a good idea ? You can extend ndisulator so that it is possible to use other kinds of win32 drivers under FreeBSD. /fjoe