From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 28 2:48: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388CD37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f4S9luR34215 ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA46846 ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:48:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:48:33 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: Fredrik Olausson , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010528114833.G43555@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Brett Glass , Fredrik Olausson , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <20010527172838.A11174@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:06:04AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass said on May 28, 2001 at 02:06:04: > At 09:28 AM 5/27/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > >Why don't you start your own BSD-licensed desktop project? > > Because for desktops -- and I know this is a controversial > statement -- it seems that commercial is a better model > than open source. Well, I myself said that I doubted the BSD license would be suitable. On the GPL side, I wouldn't give up on the KDE/Gnome people. As for commercial, Qt is available to them and not very expensive, so commercial companies can certainly use it (eg Opera), and Gtk/Gnomelibs are under LGPL and usable with commercial software. And Motif still exists, of course. Your GPL bogey is really not relevant here. > >I'd say most users of BSD whom I know use linux as a GUI -- that is, > >their window manager / desktop environment was developed on linux, > >though it may be ported to run natively on FreeBSD. The "BSD > >community" as such has made no contribution to the desktop, > > FVWM is essentially BSD-licensed. It's not exactly tearing up > the charts. Which was my point. However, it does have a non-negligible user base still. I didn't know about its license. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message