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Date:      Sun, 18 Sep 2022 00:24:57 +0400
From:      milky india <milkyindia@gmail.com>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Need help with live system expansion (zfs+geli)
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 12:20 AM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 2:03 PM milky india <milkyindia@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:58 PM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM milky india <milkyindia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:43 PM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:31 PM milky india <milkyindia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry about that, again - I'm not sure what you mean by
> bottom-post vs top-post.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Be that as it may - I read the geli man page. I was specifically
> warned against using "geli resize" since it may not work as expected
> https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/how-to-extend-zfs-geli-encrypted-disk-space-not-showing.86447/post-581642
> >> >> > Is this advise wrong?
> >> >> > > "The geli has autoresize flag which will handle the new provider
> size after gpart resize command."
> >> >> > followed by
> >> >> > > You are right, no geli resize needed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What would be the correct sequence of commands to fix this -
> Simply "geli resize" ? (the -s option seems to be additional, will it
> figure it out without providing s?)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:20 PM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> top-posting is where you insert your reply above the previous email.
> >> >> Bottom posting is where you insert your reply below it, like I'm
> >> >> doing.  The forum user said that you shouldn't need to run "geli
> >> >> resize" because the AUTORESIZE flag is on.  But as you can see from
> >> >> your "geli list" output, it's actually off.  So you need to run "geli
> >> >> resize".  The "-s" flag should be unnecessary since your provider is
> >> >> already online.  At any rate, you can try it both ways.  You might
> >> >> want to make a copy of /var/backups/ada0p3.eli, just in case you make
> >> >> a mistake.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks - I hope I am bottom posting this as was expected of me.
> >> >
> >> > So if I understand correctly the AUTORESIZE flag is present for
> adaop2 and NOT for adap3 (which is the partition we are concerned about) -
> hence the advice given to not use "geli resize" isn't applicable here. Am I
> understanding this correctly?
> >>
> >> Yes
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > So you need to run "geli resize"
> >> > Is this the only command that I need to run to resize my geli
> partition?
> >>
> >> Yes
> >>
> >> >
> >> > > The "-s" flag should be unnecessary since your provider is
> >> > already online.
> >> > Ok thanks.
> >> >
> >> > >You might want to make a copy of /var/backups/ada0p3.eli, just in
> case you make a mistake.
> >> > Don't have the luxury of backup currently.
> >>
> >> Um, ok.  I can't guess why you aren't able to do that, but it isn't
> >> strictly necessary.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I suppose at the end of it - if this works - "geli list" would
> reflect the size to be 458G? (vs 290G currently)
> >> > And that's the output I can trust to have solved the issue - or is
> there more to it?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >
> > > The "-s" flag should be unnecessary since your provider is already
> online.
> > When I try to run "geli resize /dev/ada0p3.eli" it complains. So I guess
> options s is must ? If yes - do I need to put in the exact size down to
> bytes from the output of geli list ? Under "Mediasize" ?
> > ---------------------------------------
> > geli: Option 's' not specified.
> > ----------------------------------------
>
> Dude, it's easier just to try it, than to ask us.  Go for it.  The
> worst case scenario if you get the argument wrong is that nothing
> happens.
>

> The worst case scenario if you get the argument wrong is that nothing
happens.
I'm not very sure if I put in the wrong value of s (old size) then "nothing
happens" - I would imagine if I put in a size less than the current size
then possibly the data after that get's lost? Or if I put in a size greater
than the current size then there is a gap in the geli partition?
I sense some frustration in your reply - but I'm on a live system and
wouldn't want to possibly risk it going kaput at this last step. That's the
reason I'm trying to understand what is the best value of s for geli resize
and how to obtain it.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 12:20 AM Alan=
 Somers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:asomers@freebsd.org">asomers@freebsd.org</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sa=
t, Sep 17, 2022 at 2:03 PM milky india &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:milkyindia@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">milkyindia@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:58 PM Alan Somers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aso=
mers@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank">asomers@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM milky india &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:milkyindia@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">milkyindia@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:43 PM Alan Somers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:asomers@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank">asomers@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:31 PM milky india &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:milkyindia@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">milkyindia@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sorry about that, again - I&#39;m not sure what you =
mean by bottom-post vs top-post.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Be that as it may - I read the geli man page. I was =
specifically warned against using &quot;geli resize&quot; since it may not =
work as expected <a href=3D"https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/how-to-exten=
d-zfs-geli-encrypted-disk-space-not-showing.86447/post-581642" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/how-to-extend-z=
fs-geli-encrypted-disk-space-not-showing.86447/post-581642</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Is this advise wrong?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;The geli has autoresize flag which will h=
andle the new provider size after gpart resize command.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; followed by<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; You are right, no geli resize needed.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; What would be the correct sequence of commands to fi=
x this - Simply &quot;geli resize&quot; ? (the -s option seems to be additi=
onal, will it figure it out without providing s?)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:20 PM Alan Somers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:asomers@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank">asomers@freebsd.org</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; top-posting is where you insert your reply above the prev=
ious email.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Bottom posting is where you insert your reply below it, l=
ike I&#39;m<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; doing.=C2=A0 The forum user said that you shouldn&#39;t n=
eed to run &quot;geli<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; resize&quot; because the AUTORESIZE flag is on.=C2=A0 But=
 as you can see from<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; your &quot;geli list&quot; output, it&#39;s actually off.=
=C2=A0 So you need to run &quot;geli<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; resize&quot;.=C2=A0 The &quot;-s&quot; flag should be unn=
ecessary since your provider is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; already online.=C2=A0 At any rate, you can try it both wa=
ys.=C2=A0 You might<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; want to make a copy of /var/backups/ada0p3.eli, just in c=
ase you make<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a mistake.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks - I hope I am bottom posting this as was expected of m=
e.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; So if I understand correctly the AUTORESIZE flag is present f=
or adaop2 and NOT for adap3 (which is the partition we are concerned about)=
 - hence the advice given to not use &quot;geli resize&quot; isn&#39;t appl=
icable here. Am I understanding this correctly?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Yes<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; So you need to run &quot;geli resize&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Is this the only command that I need to run to resize my geli=
 partition?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Yes<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; The &quot;-s&quot; flag should be unnecessary since your=
 provider is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; already online.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Ok thanks.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;You might want to make a copy of /var/backups/ada0p3.eli,=
 just in case you make a mistake.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Don&#39;t have the luxury of backup currently.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Um, ok.=C2=A0 I can&#39;t guess why you aren&#39;t able to do that=
, but it isn&#39;t<br>
&gt;&gt; strictly necessary.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I suppose at the end of it - if this works - &quot;geli list&=
quot; would reflect the size to be 458G? (vs 290G currently)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; And that&#39;s the output I can trust to have solved the issu=
e - or is there more to it?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Yes.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The &quot;-s&quot; flag should be unnecessary since your provider=
 is already online.<br>
&gt; When I try to run &quot;geli resize /dev/ada0p3.eli&quot; it complains=
. So I guess options s is must ? If yes - do I need to put in the exact siz=
e down to bytes from the output of geli list ? Under &quot;Mediasize&quot; =
?<br>
&gt; ---------------------------------------<br>
&gt; geli: Option &#39;s&#39; not specified.<br>
&gt; ----------------------------------------<br>
<br>
Dude, it&#39;s easier just to try it, than to ask us.=C2=A0 Go for it.=C2=
=A0 The<br>
worst case scenario if you get the argument wrong is that nothing<br>
happens.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&gt; The worst case scenario i=
f you get the argument wrong is that nothing happens.</div><div>I&#39;m not=
 very sure if I put in the wrong value of s (old size) then &quot;nothing h=
appens&quot; - I would imagine if I put in a size less than the current siz=
e then possibly the data after that get&#39;s lost? Or if I put in a size g=
reater than the current size then there is a gap in the geli partition?</di=
v><div>I sense some frustration in your reply - but I&#39;m on a live syste=
m and wouldn&#39;t want to possibly risk it going kaput at this last step. =
That&#39;s the reason I&#39;m trying to understand what is the best value o=
f s for geli resize and how to obtain it.</div></div></div>

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