Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris <chris-gnats33@randomcamel.net> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: misc/58134: ntpdate documented as obsolete, and shouldn't be. Message-ID: <200310161651.h9GGppl3050329@leviathan.houseness.org> Resent-Message-ID: <200310161700.h9GH0YeF086354@freefall.freebsd.org>
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>Number: 58134 >Category: misc >Synopsis: ntpdate documented as obsolete, and shouldn't be. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 16 10:00:34 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris >Release: FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD leviathan.houseness.org 4.9-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #20: Sun Sep 28 10:30:19 PDT 2003 root@leviathan.houseness.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LEVIATHAN i386 ntpdate, ntpd on -STABLE, going back several years. >Description: the ntpdate(8) manpage claims: DESCRIPTION Note: The functionality of this program is now available in the ntpd(8) program. See the -q command line option in the ntpd(8) page. After a suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate utility is to be retired from this distribution. and the ntpd(8) manpage claims: -q Exit the ntpd just after the first time the clock is set. This behavior mimics that of the ntpdate(8) program, which is to be retired. The -g and -x options can be used with this option. however, ntpd -q has never seemed to work properly, just hanging even with an ntp.conf with valid servers. on top of that, ntpdate seems to be standard everywhere else (NetBSD and Linux sysadmins have never heard of -q), so removing it would violate POLA for anyone moving scripts to FreeBSD from other OSen. >How-To-Repeat: read manpages, try running ntpd -q. >Fix: I'd suggest fixing the manpages and forgetting anyone ever planned to obsolete ntpdate, whether this involves emailing the ntp maintainers or not. the current manpages are confusing and apparently inaccurate. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted:
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