From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 20 02:12:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DA6D10 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829008FC0C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:12:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Bf1nuupGV2kUU01I5xHA04JxqggTTVuMcMztuGsvGs4=; b=qxFUI++n+YarBKYsODOfNz2JbVvcbtL3AP3dU560d3WQFnO63SrYaY5AM2Co+YXvp15p4ndHzFJkT3bVWophLiQVghxUgc28gx719sxsmbYMqynoNVxWRRN6qdOYMJvj; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=61731 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TlVcQ-003rLS-Uo; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:12:19 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:12:16 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64 Message-ID: <20121220091216.40d1644b@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1355936956.2501.72.camel@q> References: <1355852561.2501.10.camel@q> <20121218185757.f10640e0.freebsd@edvax.de> <1355933062.2501.19.camel@q> <1355936956.2501.72.camel@q> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:12:25 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:09:16 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 10:14 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > You may also use at your discretion the portmaster tool? It works > > very well and a nice example is given by W. Block: > > > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html > > Thank you Antonio :) > > because I can't install FreeBSD by the 9.0 DVD, for what reason ever > this doesn't work, I installed it by the 8.3 DVD and will now make a > release upgrade. IIUC a release upgrade will rebuild everything, hence one way was already shown to you. The other route would lead you via the sources. I prefer the sources over the binary upgrade. If the new kernel will not boot, you can boot the old kernel which will then be under kernel.old. > there should be no dependency issues. My FreeBSD 8.3 is a fresh Dependencies come in when it comes to ports. I would like to suggest the you first make a decision whether you want the ports as binaries or via source. Both routes work. Only the sources allow you to specify options. I would also recommend to download first the sources or the binaries and start the upgrade only after all files are downloaded. As you already know, portupgrade is the tool of choice here. If you have problems with 9.1, you might consider a move to 10. I have done this too for the same reason when I got a new machine which has had problems with 9.0. 10.0 is not recommended for production. Me and many other still do this. You might will run occassionally into problems. So, think twice before doing this. > install, I only set up PPPoE, anything else is default. > IIUC I need to take care about it to keep dependencies up to date, > when I don't upgrade the complete release, but just upgrade some > software. > > So, can I upgrade from 8.3 to 9.0, without taking care about > dependencies and take care about the link, when 9.0 is installed, > instead of doing it right now? > FreeBSD and the ports have 'nothing' to do with each other. You have to upgrade FreeBSD first and then upgrade the ports. Most likely, all applications will continue to work without upgrade. If I remember right, even after an upgrade from 8.3 to 10.0 on one of my machines, all applications continued to work. I still upgraded them as fast as possible. > My apologize for the terrible English, I'm in a hurry, but wanted to > rely immediately and this makes broken English not better ;). Do not worry about this here. I think, while you have been pretty clear on the rest, the last line does not make real sense to me. Erich