From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 15 00:39:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11214 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA11201; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA18993; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:38:24 -0700 (PDT) To: dyson@freebsd.org cc: chat@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I ask you to respond to Linus In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 02:17:35 CDT." <199607150717.CAA05804@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:38:24 -0700 Message-ID: <18991.837416304@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Uh... Shit. John, I think this is now bordering on seriously bad publicity and the LAST thing we need is for core members to get into public slanging matches with Linus on USENET! I can only suggest that you stop reading USENET entirely since, from an external perspective, your antics have become uncomfortably similar to those of a dog in a cage who's being teased by kids with sticks. A frantically barking dog with foam all over himself is not a very pretty picture, nor does the dog himself enjoy the experience very much. I would like to ask that NONE of the people here post aggressive followups to this thread, and if anything it should have died entirely at least a week ago. I do understand John's desire to rebutt unfair claims or criticism, and it's a desire that I also share, but there are limits and the limit was passed on this one quite awhile back. The entirely McVoy thread was a MISTAKE, a tremendous waste of time, energy and bits and I can only ask that we PLEASE let it die! Don't compound the error by flaming Linus in turn and keeping that whole sorry affair alive for another n weeks. This WILL blow over if left to itself, trust me. I've been reading USENET (and mostly hating it) since 1978. :-) I myself will post exactly one message in follow-up to it, and that will be to suggest that things have gone too far and it's truly time to end it before we're all even sorrier than we are now. Jordan > > Linus just attacked me publically in a very uncalled for way > on USENET. I responded as strongly as I could, but there was > no reason for him to call me a liar. I value integrity more > highly than ANY programming skill. Please try to convince him > to publically retract his statement. > > I did respond very aggressively, but it was deserved. If his > posting was forged, I would publically apologize to him, but > I have NO REASON to suspect that. > > The flamewar had settled down, and this thing came out of the > blue. I know that he is young, but this is ridiculous. > > Thanks > John