From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 14 10:53:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6B537B416 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.22] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id fBEIqbi22442; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:52:37 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:28:31 +0100 To: "Jeremy C. Reed" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Boston Globe Article (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 4:16 PM -0800 on 2001/12/13, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: >> (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in >> relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and > > The entire article was copied. Was the entire magazine, paper, or website copied? No, just a single article. Do you know how many different "clippings" papers/magazines there are in the world, where they literally copy hundreds and hundreds of entire articles from a variety of sources, and then put that together and send that out to hundreds or thousands (or even millions) of people around the world? Surely they're not all in violation of copyright laws. I mean, no University, College, or high school could survive if they weren't. Heck, the publications departments at most companies couldn't survive, and you'd put the entire US DoD out of work, too -- they have a number of different "newsclippings" magazines that they put out (at least one each that I know of for the four services, plus another that is circulated amongst the ~30,000 people who work in the Pentagon). My God, I just had a thought -- since copyright is inherent upon the creation of the work, then all those morons that copy the entire e-mail message and then add a simple one-line response at the top or bottom are in violation of copyright law. You know, this *must* be a much more serious violation of copyright law than what we saw from Annelise, since there are far, far more people doing it. If you want to continue your Jihad, I suggest that you start with them. > Possibly less people will read the original document. The readership will > decline, the company will lose money, the paper cuts back writers, the > original author loses further assignments, Boston goes into a economic > recession, a new tax ... How many people would have been likely to read an article about FreeBSD or Open Source in the Boston Globe? Now, how many people know that the Boston Globe has carried one interesting article on this subject, and may now be inclined to keep a closer watch on them to see if they come up with anything else? No, I'm sorry. Not a single one of your arguments has held any water. Myself, when I find an article like this, I'll copy the first paragraph or two, and then include a link to the entire thing online. But in no way at all do I find myself compelled to do so for copyright reasons. No, I do it because I know that not everyone who receives my message will want to read the article in question, and I don't want to excessively annoy those who don't. -- Brad Knowles, H4sICIFgXzsCA2RtYS1zaWcAPVHLbsMwDDvXX0H0kkvbfxiwVw8FCmzAzqqj1F4dy7CdBfn7 Kc6wmyGRFEnvvxiWQoCvqI7RSWTcfGXQNqCUAnfIU+AT8OZ/GCNjRVlH0bKpguJkxiITZqes MxwpSucyDJzXxQEUe/ihgXqJXUXwD9ajB6NHonLmNrUSK9nacHQnH097szO74xFXqtlbT3il wMsBz5cnfCR5cEmci0Rj9u/jqBbPeES1I4PeFBXPUIT1XDSOuutFXylzrQvGyboWstCoQZyP dxX4dLx0eauFe1x9puhoi0Ao1omEJo+BZ6XLVNaVpWiKekxN0VK2VMpmAy+Bk7ZV4SO+p1L/ uErNRS/qH2iFU+iNOtbcmVt9N16lfF7tLv9FXNj8AiyNcOi1AQAA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message