From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 27 23:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05B216A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:37:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207BA43D31 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2RNbJb61673 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:37:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:37:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <1666987759.20050328012237@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:37:08 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > >> In any case if you meet the driver author halfway and don't approach >> it like it's his driver that's broken, but rather that your hardware >> isn't exactly compliant, (regardless of what you really believe) you >> won't be put into the anal insertion category. > > If I have to worry about hurting the developer's delicate feelings, > maybe a new developer might be a good idea. I hoped to stop having to > deal with schoolkids when I got out of school. Good developers feel > morally obligated to deliver bug-free code and don't have to be nagged > about it. But the ahc() driver -is- bug free. It's not bug free when it's running on modified hardware, but it's fine when it's running with unmodded hardware. Your complaint sounds somewhat like the guy who bought a 68 Mustang then complained when he had to cut away the shock towers to fit in a 460 and headers, then complained more when the torque from his engine twisted the frame of the car. Your going to be told to stick your head up your ass as long as you keep believing that your hardware and it's firmware has nothing to do with the problem. Tens of thousands (probably more) of other people run FreeBSD servers for years using aic7880 chipsets without seeing what your seeing. Clearly, there is something in your hardware that is different from all these other people and that FreeBSD doesn't work with. Your controller is probably the most common narrow scsi controller in use among people running FreeBSD production servers. Only the Symbiosis narrow scsi chipset probably has a larger following, and a lot of these are only running tapedrives and CD's. (since they were sold with no boot rom) Ted