From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 07:52:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB2D1065671 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from smtp-1.dlr.de (smtp-1.dlr.de [195.37.61.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24B513C4DB for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de ([129.247.173.6]) by smtp-1.dlr.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:52:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:52:30 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt X-X-Sender: brandt_h@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de To: Kip Macy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080227085154.O69960@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> References: <47C39948.3080907@elischer.org> <20080226051346.GA65258@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <47C458E9.5090400@freebsd.org> <47C45CFE.9030006@elischer.org> <47C468AE.7060603@FreeBSD.org> <47C494B5.2040306@elischer.org> X-OpenPGP-Key: harti@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2008 07:52:31.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4A5AD90:01C87915] Cc: Brooks Davis , Andre Oppermann , FreeBSD Current , Marko Zec , Marko Zec , Marko Zec , Julian Elischer Subject: Re: warning of pending commit attempt. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harti Brandt List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:52:34 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Kip Macy wrote: KM>On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: KM>> Kris Kennaway wrote: KM>> > Julian Elischer wrote: KM>> >> Andre Oppermann wrote: KM>> >>> Brooks Davis wrote: KM>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 08:44:56PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: KM>> >>>> KM>> >>>>> At some stage in the next few weeks I will be trying to commit KM>> >>>>> Marco Zec's vimage code to -current. (only 'trying' not KM>> >>>>> for technical reasons, but political). KM>> >>> ... KM>> >>>>> Why now? KM>> >>>>> The code is in a shape where teh compiled out version of hte KM>> >>>>> system is stable. In the compiled in version, it is functional KM>> >>>>> enough to provide nearly all of what people want. It needs people KM>> >>>>> with other interests to adapt it to their purposes and use it so KM>> >>>>> that it can become a solid product for future releases. KM>> >>>> KM>> >>>> The website has a snapshot with a date over a month old and many KM>> >>>> comments about unstable interfaces. I've seen zero reports of KM>> >>>> substantial testing... KM>> >>> KM>> >>> What about locking and SMP scalability? Any new choke points? KM>> >> KM>> >> not that I've seen. KM>> > KM>> > That's a less than resounding endorsement :) KM>> KM>> do the 10Gb ethernet adapters have any major problems? KM>> are you willing to answer "no"? KM>> should we then rip them from the tree? KM>> KM>> I'm saying "this is work in progress" It seems stable and useful. KM>> until we can get more than 6 people running it we won't know more. KM>> KM> KM> KM> KM>Given how long it has been since RELENG_7 branched - if its really a KM>no-op when disabled, I personally don't see it any issues with it. yes++; harti