Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:50:36 +1100 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Livia Admin <kreaper@livia.netfoo.org>, David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>, ML Duke <mlduke@concentric.net> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: anyone tried this? Message-ID: <20001014155036.A275@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20001013112858.A3299@livia.netfoo.org>; from kreaper@livia.netfoo.org on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:28:58AM %2B0800 References: <20001013112858.A3299@livia.netfoo.org> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10010130956040.347-100000@mlduke.concentric.net> <20001013112858.A3299@livia.netfoo.org> <39E6EEF0.CAB9D949@acuson.com> <20001013112858.A3299@livia.netfoo.org>
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[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Friday, 13 October 2000 at 11:28:58 +0800, Livia Admin wrote: > if anyone of you tried linux or installing linux... is there a way > of installing freebsd from just a DOS-prompt and hardisk, without > CD-DRIVE and DISK-DRIVE. is there something like "LOADLIN" in > freebsd to just load/boot the kernel from dos? > > thanks > i'm trying to install it but dont know how to start without floppy or cd There used to be a program which would boot from MS-DOS, whatever that may now be. It didn't work from "Windows", whatever that may be (there are at least 5 different platforms with that name, and some base on MS-DOS). From "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: Installing from a Microsoft partition _____________________________________ On the Intel architecture it's also possible to install from a primary Microsoft partition on the first disk. At the moment, it's not possible to install from extended partitions. To prepare for installation from an Microsoft partition, copy the files from the distribution into a directory called \FREEBSD. For example, to do a minimal installation of FreeBSD from Microsoft using files copied from a CD-ROM mounted on E:, you might do something like this: C> MKDIR C:\FREEBSD C> XCOPY /S E:\BIN C:\FREEBSD\BIN C> XCOPY /S E:\FLOPPIES C:\FREEBSD\FLOPPIES You need the directory FLOPPIES because that's where sysinstall looks for the boot.flp, the first image in every installation. The only required directory is bin. You can include as many other directories as you want, but be sure to maintain the directory structure. In other words, if you also wanted to install XF86312 and manpages, you would copy them to C:\FREEBSD\XF86312 and C:\FREEBSD\MANPAGES. The trouble is, nobody knows if it still works, and not many of us care. On Friday, 13 October 2000 at 11:16:00 +0000, David Johnson wrote: > Livia Admin wrote: >> >> if anyone of you tried linux or installing linux... is there a way >> of installing freebsd from just a DOS-prompt and hardisk, without >> CD-DRIVE and DISK-DRIVE. is there something like "LOADLIN" in >> freebsd to just load/boot the kernel from dos? > > Sorry, kreaper, but you're about to be used as an example :-) > > In the growing debate over the continuing existance of freebsd-newbies, > the number one complaint is that questions are asked. The list charter > says that "finding and using resources and asking for help elsewhere" > and "moral support" are okay. Some questions are certainly okay, while > others are forbidden. > > kreaper's post straddle's the fence. > > On one hand he is asking a technical question on how to load FreeBSD on > a certain configuration. But on the other hand he is asking for the > location of the path leading to a destination. The questin was *not* > "how do I install FreeBSD from a DOS prompt?", but rather "is it > possible?" > > Now, a good netizen of -newbies would reply with a terse "yes" or "no", > and a frustrated netizen would reply "don't ask questions". > > But would a reply on the order of "take a look at the xxx utility, it's > described in the FAQ, it might be what you need" be way off base? If it > is, then certainly nuke -newbies out of existance. But I don't think so. > And neither do I think all list members should be punished for the > misdeeds of a few (as seems to be the commonly proposed solution). > > As for a a LOADLIN analogue: "I don't know." I think you've made exactly the right point. On Friday, 13 October 2000 at 9:57:09 -0600, ML Duke wrote: >> if anyone of you tried linux or installing linux... >> is there a way of installing freebsd from just a DOS-prompt > > Think I might know the answer to this one: No. Well, I think the correct answer is a definite "possibly". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As David mentions, we have a problem with -newbies. This question belonged on -questions, but it's not always clear that that's the right place. When newbies was created, Sue promised that people wouldn't ask technical questions on -newbies, and I promised not to answer them if they were asked. But if I hadn't, you might not have had the right answer. There are three very good reasons to ask questions only on -questions: 1. More people will see the question, and the chance of getting an answer is better. 2. More people will see the answers, so it's more worthwhile to send a good answer. 3. The chance of getting a *correct* answer is better. Somebody else suggested we should change the name of newbies, to something like "newbies-chat". That's a bit of a mouthful, but it describes things better. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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