From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 20:53:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E69416A41C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:53:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2536443D45 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:53:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2005 20:53:35 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 22:53:35 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:53:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <42D79676.6040606@samsco.org> <200507151711.05970@harrymail> <635F9EBB-6C5E-4437-ABDE-99D0540BC774@anduin.net> In-Reply-To: <635F9EBB-6C5E-4437-ABDE-99D0540BC774@anduin.net> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1300714.2pdba9OjVA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507152253.26648@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Eirik =?iso-8859-1?q?=D8verby?= Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:53:38 -0000 --nextPart1300714.2pdba9OjVA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 22:12 CEST schrieb Eirik =D8verby: > On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier: > >> And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x > >> is no > >> longer supported? I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was > >> *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x > >> altogether? Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing > >> so at > >> this time wouldn't be prudent? > > > > To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also > > deploying new > > servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many improovements > > (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been pretty stable for me > > on my > > Hoi, > what's changed wrt jails? And nullfs? I haven't been following the > "news" as closely as I perhaps should, but I feel that the jail > functionality doesn't get half as much attention in release notes as > it should... Porting my jail-related tools to 5.x from 4.x was > painful, but enjoyable when I was done. How does 6.x look? I'm not the developer guy so I can't tell you anything authoritative but I= =20 know that there has been an awful perfomance degradation when mounting=20 nullfs-filesystems into a jail under RELENG_5, espacially noticable with=20 apache! I just know that Jeff Roberson committed incredible lots of vm/vfs= =20 changes, perhaps this also solved the md performance problem, at least the= =20 nullfs problem was solved! Jail management was also a lot improved, but that was back in 5.4 I think. I'll do some extensive Jail test the next view weeks, I fear there are=20 oddities left (I had plenty of them with milter-sender and apache's=20 mod_proxy for example under 5.4) =2DHarry > > /Eirik > > > UP workstation with all kinds of new stuff enabled (ULE > > PREEMPTION), so I > > guess I won't see more troubles than with 5.4, I think less :) > > > > -Harry > > > >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote: > >>> Announcement > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the > >>> availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the > >>> FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle. > >>> > >>> FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5 > >>> branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4. Much of the > >>> work > >>> that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and > >>> improving the work from 5.x These changes include streamlining > >>> direct > >>> device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe > >>> UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11 > >>> features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver > >>> improvements. Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI > >>> power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network > >>> infrastructure. 32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly > >>> improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards. > >>> This > >>> release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support > >>> for > >>> the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms. > >>> > >>> This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly > >>> Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are > >>> available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple > >>> of the > >>> architectures. > >>> > >>> We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be > >>> identified and worked out. Availability of ISO images is given > >>> below. > >>> If you have an older system you want to update using the normal > >>> CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6 > >>> (though that will change for the Release Candidates later). Problem > >>> reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command. > >>> > >>> The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the > >>> todo list: > >>> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html > >>> > >>> Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough > >>> idea for some of the dates. The current rough schedule is available > >>> but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined": > >>> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html > >>> > >>> Known Issues > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out > >>> properly, so > >>> the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt. You will need > >>> to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab. > >>> Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config > >>> dialog. > >>> > >>> For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some > >>> FreeBSD 5 applications to run. Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the > >>> kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5 > >>> executables. > >>> > >>> > >>> Availability > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD > >>> Mirror sites. A list of the mirror sites is available here: > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors- > >>> ftp. > >>> html > >>> > >>> The MD5s are: > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) =3D > >>> eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1 > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) =3D d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4 > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D > >>> 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) =3D cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8 > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) =3D 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5 > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) =3D 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) =3D b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408 > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) =3D 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) =3D 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) =3D 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8 > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) =3D 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9 > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) =3D 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91 > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) =3D > >>> 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) =3D > >>> b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8 > >>> > >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) =3D > >>> ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) =3D > >>> af21752630b13cf60c9498fbf7f793b6 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc2.iso) =3D > >>> 3241af814bfe93a97707c7a964c57718 > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks to Ken Smith, Marcel Moolenaar, Wilko Bulte, and Takahashi > >>> Yoshihiro, and Peter Grehan for doing the sparc64, ia64, alpha, > >>> pc98, > >>> and ppc builds, respectively. Thanks also to Ken Smith for his help > >>> on writing much of this announcement. > >>> -- > >>> This mail is for the internal use of the FreeBSD project committers, > >>> and as such is private. This mail may not be published or forwarded > >>> outside the FreeBSD committers' group or disclosed to other > >>> unauthorised parties without the explicit permission of the author > >>> (s). > >> > >> ---- > >> Marc G. 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