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Date:      Sat, 24 Oct 2015 09:58:39 +0200
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com>
Cc:        Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: replace uname -a informational string
Message-ID:  <20151024095839.2da2cb97.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
In-Reply-To: <1445658972.13154.44.camel@michaeleichorn.com>
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Am Fri, 23 Oct 2015 23:56:12 -0400
"Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com> schrieb:

> On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 08:09 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 22:54:24 +0200
> > "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >  =20
> > > Am Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:45:25 -0400
> > > "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com> schrieb:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > First of all: Thank you very much for your concerns and answers.
> > >  =20
> > > > On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 09:08 +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: =20
> > > > > For security purposes, I need to replace the informations given
> > > > > by
> > > > > "uname -a"
> > > > > to hode the kernel build system, name et cetera.   =20
> > > >=20
> > > > I presume you intendend 'hide' here?
> > > >=20
> > > > If you want to scrub a binaries of _all_ information about the
> > > > building system this is a problem Debian is actively working on
> > > > called 'reproducible builds' but is not possible today.
> > > >=20
> > > > https://reproducible.debian.net
> > > >=20
> > > > If you want to hide the hostname, why not just build with a
> > > > different hostname set? =20
> > >=20
> > > Because it is not only the hostname, uname reveals the target host,
> > > date and OS version.
> > >=20
> > > In our case, the image ist built on a dedicated host for a security
> > > appliabce based on NanoBSD and I'd like to hide the OS type, the OS
> > > name, the build box' name and the build date.=20
> > >  =20
> > why not replace uname at the source level then?
> >=20
> > Erich =20
>=20
> That wouldn't hide the information in any substantial way. Uname is
> basically an abstraction of a subset of sysctls. As such, the information
> is integral to the kernel itself. Uname is just one of many tools that
> can be used to display this information.
>=20
> Fundamentally the kernel itself needs to be changed not uname.

I'm well aware of that fact. At many places, the build-process sets variabl=
es from the
outside world while building binaries and kernel and since I build everythi=
ng from
scratch, I intend to manipulate those variables - if possible.

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