From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 7 18:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFF037B4EC for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f182JAE39186; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:19:10 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200102080219.f182JAE39186@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Matthew Emmerton Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:37:47 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Feb 2001, at 21:14, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > Matthew Luckie writes: > > > I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release. > > > I am personally using 4.2-stable. Its not my decision to use 3.0 > > > I beleive the computers running 3.0 have been running it for several years > > > now - i.e. it was the latest available at the time. > > > > Well, it was a stupid decision at that time, and the decision not to > > upgrade or replace these machines now is even stupider. Be careful how you criticize. > Hey now, go easy. Lots of stupid decisions are made by "managers" who > don't understand the implications of old(er) technology. > > I've got a 3.2-R machine which I'm forced to maintain, and the only reason > why it's not running 3.2-S or 4.2-S is because I can't take the stupid > thing offline. I've haggled with my boss for a 6 hour window and the > answer is no, no, no. I've even got a 3.2-S installation waiting in > /usr/obj. What about replacing the box with a new box? Smaller window. > The only way I'm going to get my 3.2-R machine upgraded (and the only way > this person is going to get their 3.0-R machine upgraded) is when it > breaks and requires a complete reinstall to become operational. It might pay to send an email to your boss, cc'd to yourself explaining this. I've seen some managers who make decisions such as that and then blame others when the crap hits. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message