From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 00:01:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:01:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE4C43D3F for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1D0TgA-0008Mq-02; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:01:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200502131614.09991.ean@hedron.org> References: <200502112313.28082.hindrich@worldchat.com> <1453180591.20050213095312@wanadoo.fr> <200502131614.09991.ean@hedron.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <935746EF-7E1B-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:01:28 -0700 To: Ean Kingston X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: Anthony Atkielski cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:01:33 -0000 On Feb 13, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Ean Kingston wrote: > On February 13, 2005 03:53 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: >>> You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- >>> this >>> works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel >>> configurations >>> changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is >>> then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the >>> display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and >>> can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland >>> only >>> and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server >>> on >>> your FBSD Server machine. >> >> I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. >> >> What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal >> sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, >> but >> what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with >> ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems >> that >> everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working >> with >> Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be >> done >> from a command line). > > I run an XLoad app on every server with the display on my desktop (set > to > update once a minute. It lets me keep an eye on the general health of > the > servers during the day. Asside from that I haven't found a truely > useful GUI > app for servers. I had some java based ecommerce stuff for a server that had an installer that was a GUI, for example. Chad