From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 5 15: 9: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4E637BC5B; Fri, 5 May 2000 15:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id HAA46297; Sat, 6 May 2000 07:38:52 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:38:52 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Debugging Kernel/System Crashes, can anyone help?? Message-ID: <20000506073852.E37507@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000503185936.E72341@ethereal.net> <20000504095941.B18453@freebie.lemis.com> <200005040124.VAA55655@account.abs.net> <20000504111136.B22025@freebie.lemis.com> <20000503185936.E72341@ethereal.net> <20000504114013.E22025@freebie.lemis.com> <4.3.2.20000503221040.02051d40@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000503221040.02051d40@207.227.119.2> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 4 May 2000 at 17:00:35 -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 11:40 AM 5/4/00 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> There's a separate issue about whether to build kernels with debug >> symbols by default. That takes a lot more space (30 MB as compared to >> about 8). But if you have a debug kernel, I don't see any reason to >> install a stripped version. > > Running the non-stripped kernel uses more memory No, this isn't correct, not with ELF. > and isn't there also a performance issue. No. > Also what is gained by running it, Disk space. > as long as you have the complimentary debug kernel in /var/crash (or > wherever) for the stripped boot kernel. It's the one that savecore saves, and there's more opportunity for using the wrong debug kernel for dump analysis. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message