From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 20 12:51:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E59637BF77 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA55432; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:50:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Warner Losh , mjacob@feral.com, Matthew Dillon , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP discussion moving to freebsd-smp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:35 MDT." <200006201940.NAA20840@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:50:42 +0200 Message-ID: <55430.961530642@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200006201940.NAA20840@nomad.yogotech.com>, Nate Williams writes: >> >> attitude, having been one of the primary people through the >> >> 1.0 to 2.0 transition I know how many developers that cost us. >> > >> >And how many would that be? I don't remember the masses leaving us >> >because of the 1.0 -> 2.0 transition, but because of the lawsuit. >> >> I recently had reason to go through all the news archives and mail >> archives such as they exist, and we lost *a lot* of people between >> 1.1.5.1 and 2.0. Most seem to have gravitated to Linux. > >Again, was that because of the 'current does build' problem, or because >of the lawsuit? Basically because we couldn't provide them with a set of boot floppies so they could do any development on their machines. I don't know if you remember the clamour there were when we had the first "this almost installs a v2 machine" floppies out through the door, otherwise read your archives :-) >I'd argue that the lawsuit had most to do with it, which is the reason >for the 1.x -> 2.0 move. No, monthlong disruption of peoples ability to install and develop was the main reason. Basically as a developer FreeBSD didn't really exist in that period. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message