From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 21:23:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB54C106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F08BE8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85505 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 20:56:17 -0000 Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (HELO localhost) (195.1.209.33) by bizet.nethelp.no with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 20:56:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:56:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20091111.215617.74746990.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: des@des.no From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: <86fx8kolak.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20091111101207.GF64905@hoeg.nl> <200911112031.43685.mel.flynn+fbsd.current@mailing.thruhere.net> <86fx8kolak.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mel.flynn+fbsd.current@mailing.thruhere.net, ed@80386.nl, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Final call for testers: TERM=xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:23:00 -0000 > The fact that FreeBSD doesn't do this is a bug. The purpose of > /etc/termcap is to document the actual capabilities of the terminal, and > saving and restoring the screen is one of xterm's capabilities, but > somebody who didn't like it unilaterally decided to force their own > personal preferences on everyone instead of tweaking their own shell > configuration (export LESS=-X). That may be so. However, I (like others on this list) hate that feature and its default usage in Linux with a passion. If the FreeBSD default is changed I guess I'll hate that equally much, which is kind of sad - because in most respects FreeBSD does what I want. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no