From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 23 13:25:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06985 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.research.megasoft.com (gw.research.megasoft.com [206.230.35.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06971 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goffette.research.megasoft.com (goffette.research.megasoft.com [192.168.1.2]) by gw.research.megasoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3-cmcurtin) with SMTP id QAA22910; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by goffette.research.megasoft.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id QAA01992; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:19:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199608232019.QAA01992@goffette.research.megasoft.com> From: C Matthew Curtin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Don Yuniskis , freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Subject: Re: freefall down/dead? In-Reply-To: <1533.840733989@time.cdrom.com> References: <199608221602.JAA16581@seagull.rtd.com> <1533.840733989@time.cdrom.com> Reply-To: cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com X-Attribution: mattC Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "JKH" == Jordan K Hubbard writes: JKH> freefall has been up for 11 days, and it's the Internet which JKH> goes down more frequently now. Ping isn't much of a test - use JKH> traceroute to see if it's actually us or something in between. I've found that it's very often impossible to get there when my ISP decides to route over a connection to Sprint. I talked them out of doing that, and now they route over MCI, but still occasionally can't make it. Usually, it's a confused router someplace, continually routing through itself, or two routers throwing the packets back and forth at each other... I can see it now... Router 1: Here you go Router 2: It's not mine Router 1: Yeah, but you can get there Router 2: You're closer Router 1: No I'm not Router 2: I'm not routing this packet Router 1: Look, this is a user's packet! Router 2: If it's such an emergency, then *you* route it. Router 1: Ok, here you go.... -- C Matthew Curtin MEGASOFT, LLC Chief Scientist I speak only for myself. Don't whine to anyone but me about anything I say. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com http://research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/