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Date:      Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:00:38 -0600
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Distributed audit daemon committed (was: svn commit: r243752 - in head: etc etc/defaults etc/mail etc/mtree etc/rc.d share/man/man4 usr.sbin usr.sbin/auditdistd (fwd))
Message-ID:  <20121213160038.GE40927@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <0857C6CA-31DF-441D-B30E-F7DB2492C213@freebsd.org>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1212011512410.34256@fledge.watson.org> <50BA7158.1040302@fgznet.ch> <CADLo83-SJMdu7jagH-Ac_Ooc-LahDtL%2BEF-cRHiWsS9u64sxsA@mail.gmail.com> <50BB136F.4040509@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1212021302390.55169@fledge.watson.org> <CAFMmRNzu==GZ0-EPdB9Wz5MSnu=cvJUtd4_-wsPSxqykxTFySw@mail.gmail.com> <0857C6CA-31DF-441D-B30E-F7DB2492C213@freebsd.org>

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On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:43:22PM +0000, Robert N. M. Watson wrote:
>=20
> On 2 Dec 2012, at 15:34, Ryan Stone wrote:
>=20
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> wro=
te:
> >=20
> > Just to follow up on this thread, since the question has come up a numb=
er of times.  "mergemaser -p" should be run prior to installworld always, b=
ut most of the time will do very little.  One of its responsibilities is to=
 add any necessary accounts and groups depended on by base system component=
s -- e.g., that will be referenced during installworld as part of setting f=
ile ownership and groups.
> >=20
> > I often use "make installworld installkernel distribution DESTDIR=3D...=
" to create bootable images (e.g. for a USB stick).  What's the recommendat=
ion for that case?  Manually create the auditdistd user on the build host?
>=20
> Yes, that's probably the best short-term bet.
>=20
> In the longer term, it would be nice of installworld could not only gener=
ate an mtree on the side rather than directly chmod/chowning the files (Bro=
oks Davis has patches for this), but also use UIDs/GIDs from a user databas=
e directly rather than assuming that the host where you are constructing th=
e image has the same notion of users and groups. This is especially importa=
nt if we want to support cross-building embedded images from Linux, Mac OS =
X, etc, in the future.
>=20

One useful feature of NetBSD's install is that we can use passwd and
group databases other than the one in /.  You would obviously use this
when doing an unprivileged install, but you might also want to do it
for a privileged install as well which would fix this bootstrapping
problem.

-- Brooks

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