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From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20210210235831.765254e2.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:55:13 -0600 Cc: RW via freebsd-questions , RW Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F27D6D7-3478-4750-B151-9BA03CFECECB@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <25de0d19-1bb6-610f-c0cb-ef7721086902@panix.com> <24606.3187.85211.65015@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <587ffb90-4041-7e96-f9f7-0f0ff8827587@yuripv.dev> <20210209145843.079389a3@gumby.homeunix.com> <8b80d4a7-3fd3-b032-6d19-a940b3e736c4@panix.com> <20210210170247.52853d16@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210210235831.765254e2.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> To: Erich Dollansky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DbdTP52cmz3vSs X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.40 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[freebsd.org,googlemail.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 00:55:22 -0000 > On Feb 10, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Erich Dollansky = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:02:47 +0000 > RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:30:24 -0500 >> Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >>=20 >>> On 2/9/21 9:58 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I only use this gmail account for mailing list and only with a=20 >>>> traditional MUA. I don't see any ads or give them anything that=20 >>>> isn't already public. =20 >>>=20 >>> Google knows who you are across your use of all their services, by=20= >>> identifying your computer(s). A separate Gmail account won't hide >>> you from that. >>>=20 >>> For example, your use of Gmail for this list will affect what >>> videos Youtube suggests to you. =20 >>=20 >> I've never seen any evidence of that. I only get suggestions that >> are similar to videos I watched.=20 >=20 > we work in a very specific field. When work-related e-mails land at = our > privat Google account, we get then links to paradise islands in the > tropics. This takes a few weeks until a work-related e-mail arrives > there again. >>=20 >> I doubt google knows much about me, or their choice of adverts >> wouldn't be so laughable. Two years I spent a couple of minutes on >> their search engine (instead of DuckDuckGo) looking at garden >> shredders and got ads that were dominated by shredders for months. >> This is a minor improvement over ~15 years ago when I typed in "KDE >> packages fruit salad servers" and got several years worth of >> soft-fruit ads - mostly raspberries. =20 >=20 > Yes, they react much faster these days. These nuisances you can and do observe are quite benign compared to = those you can=E2=80=99t observe (and don=E2=80=99t care to imagine ;-) Valeri > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"