From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 01:43:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F7EA76B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2AB2C5B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.146.73]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CC8A7D12F for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <538FCB36.60202@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:43:18 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: There is currently no usable release of FreeBSD. References: <18771.1401901640@critter.freebsd.dk> <19839.1401922026@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i6andLej7kmGet0XUNfK5rbRUoSmVKMB4" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:43:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --i6andLej7kmGet0XUNfK5rbRUoSmVKMB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-06-04 19:32, John Kozubik wrote: > I agree that the releases do not last long enough to settle on and grow= > into. >=20 > That is why we *need* a release to go into double-digit minors, like 4 > did when it went to 4.11. >=20 > I don't even care which one! Any of them! Just give us a release that= > we can grow into and not find ourselves at "legacy" two years later, at= > 9.2. >=20 > Which, by the way, is actually a step backwards. I was appalled to fin= d > that 8 was marked legacy at 8.3, but now 9 is marked legacy at 9.2. > Which means if there is some bug in 'em' or 'twa' and it gets fixed in > 10, you'll never see it backported to 9. Be honest. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" The word 'legacy' was misused on the website. This will be corrected. Each branch lasts ~5 years. See this graph (page 9): https://wiki.freebsd.org/201405DevSummit?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dview&ta= rget=3DFreeBSD+11.pdf --=20 Allan Jude --i6andLej7kmGet0XUNfK5rbRUoSmVKMB4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTj8s5AAoJEJrBFpNRJZKf8aEQAIXez4xOqZwuXIA5YmxW/l7n je4rXWpMDHnU7OJd83M+W52ZjtE9L0Ozl+J4HPN2kYWlDAAz8TRIVk7/r57hgzuI 0jrNNPBF/nCyklEgSUQ3DMsl26QpHwMCV4MpdC3XRTjkRixQygt9tRgbQ309w8vI OtiA/M30SXrc1LEFMV3SpOF68KrNRJn/1tAPSLy9O2z0GwEUrmnHweUFGmCYI2QN yrHnSyogo18YfXxZxcg+i/WW5UbKyCTWAI2cLzz9EvZ+t/lG9Tl/7l4EG9MrPDXB ou7sZhy8PiasqRvFXkfSXyva/MiPd0k0BmOZJbgEpz4oyjUbKKFfqOXnPGFxSH1S ZxurKqOSAhdTWAcz1Gk22/sJZV0qIkXuTz//WrpWa7tW8sZpbkRGBeDNaAwFQI46 ACFTIC1hPc0u3ddM5FqC6GpqxTr4On0AACEeiftyfi093yRoQPDx59sV3wVhQ/WS A3ykKW/U8B4MPC6sOmo33FGrOekDMGeP1/12tHG4l1hb7p67q18biiWi1POjPyZl xO5qzmb0+gDcdhAFZJxJmTbe/Y6KU7r6uQ1jGj6Oidx63obpkFg9tUaAooxtpP/l ZXuYb5VWZ/RxrDrzimEEa0MxUNK3kBwyVGfEpRhAbCeDdn2Wpkg0Db89dWF2FlNx m5SJrCTJH10w3PEBIn8S =LOPO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i6andLej7kmGet0XUNfK5rbRUoSmVKMB4--