From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 03:19:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAA816A417 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 03:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7910D13C457 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 03:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.9]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JSG00AXXEJSDE30@l-daemon> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:19:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JSG000NDEJRCZ40@pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:19:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from soralx ([24.87.3.133]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JSG0069TEJRHE70@l-daemon> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:19:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:19:02 -0800 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <20071202194136.75180d66@peedub.jennejohn.org> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-id: <20071202191902.360295ef@soralx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <474CD21D.5010002@chuckr.org> <20071128175815.GA18822@kobe.laptop> <20071128130518.b9c545ac.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20071128205045.66e28630@peedub.jennejohn.org> <4752F4CA.5050805@chuckr.org> <20071202194136.75180d66@peedub.jennejohn.org> Cc: chuckr@chuckr.org Subject: Re: handling pdfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:19:51 -0000 > > I'm not sure why, maybe I have too poor a font selection here, but > > the fonts, I mean, the onscreen fonts that xpdf seems to choose, > > always seems to run characters together, so it gets hard to read > > them. So, xpdf wouldn't be my first choice. I use kpdf to view > > pdfs for that particular reason, and onthe same document, kpdf does > > a distinctly better job, If kpdf uses xpdf's engine, then it must > > find some way to pick better fonts for itself, it actually does > > look better. > > I personally find that xpdf looks OK. Same here, though I do remember to have that cramped characters problem before. I think it was in PDFs created by OpenOffice swriter. When I used the "other" OS to print these PDFs, there were cramped characters on paper. BTW, 'tis slightly off-topic, but had anyone else noticed that xpdf is rather slow in rendering pages? I remember, when I had a chance to use that "other" OS, there was some program to view PDF -- AcrobatReader it was called, AFAIR -- well, that thing rendered pages almost instantly. > I avoid things like kpdf because I don't use KDE and don't really need > all the bloat associated with it. But that's just me. No, that's not just you. That KDE and GNOME bloat is getting barely tolerable already. And not only because of the weight -- instability and departure from UNIX/XFree conventions are driving me crazy (did you notice that copying text to buffer by selecting it with a mouse doesn't seem to work anymnore with GTK?). Still, how can it be that just starting an app should waste tens of seconds of your time and more RAM than necessary? And that's on a dual-core 2GHz machine! Who would have imagined... [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400