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Date:      Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:18:33 -0700 (MST)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        jmallett@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src MAINTAINERS
Message-ID:  <20021111.221833.99697539.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021111112322.A4715@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200211061401.gA6E18is052938@repoman.freebsd.org> <20021111180439.GA56914@dragon.nuxi.com> <20021111112322.A4715@FreeBSD.org>

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            Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: * De: David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org> [ Data: 2002-11-11 ]
: 	[ Subjecte: Re: cvs commit: src MAINTAINERS ]
: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 06:01:08AM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote:
: > >     .                    MAINTAINERS 
: > >   Log:
: > >   Add a MAINTAINERS entry for make(1), to the make@ alias, which anyone
: > >   can use to run patches to make(1) by.
: > ...
: > >   Currently it points to two people who have demonstrated
: > >   maintainership (ru@ and myself) and one person interested in helping
: > >   (alane@).
: > 
: > Many of us have committed to make(1) over this projects lifetime.
: > 
: > Why is make(1) so special it needs its own list?  This is getting
: > ridiculous.  Make(1) is in *all* of our hands.  Please back this out and
: > just use our normal arch@ and audit@ lists.
: 
: The idea is to have a maintainer (or a group of maintainers) whom are
: very familiar with make(1)'s code, and which (as a group) is willing to
: handle make(1) PRs, and so on.  As architectural decisions are considered,
: -arch should/would be consulted.  That doesn't apply for the majority of
: bugfixes.  As make(1) maintainers, it's expected that changes will be
: tested with due dilligence, which is easier with a make@, given the
: ever increasing de facto requirement for testing changes to make(1),
: and that when applicable, -audit would be consulted.

make@ is just alane and ru.  That's too a small a group to be on that
list.  I don't think this is a good idea at all.  Make shouldn't be
changing that much.  I've had no end of problems and subtle breakages
when I upgrade from release to release for the makefiles that we have
at work.

I don't think that this is a good direction to go.

Warner

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