From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:03:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F28D21C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBFB9366 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t08E3F5Z072738; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:03:15 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:03:25 -0000 On 08/01/2015 13:58, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 01/08/15 03:36, William B wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>>> Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with >>>> changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, >>>> I am trying to solve. >>> Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change >>> during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to >>> set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis >>> (especially useful for programmable keyboards). >>> >>> By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a >>> dependency? >> Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes >> the layout >> regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" >> to set >> the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to debug it >> though work allowing. >> >> Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. >> According to the >> docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is >> not built >> with hal support, so it's not needed. >> >> >> - -- Sincerely, >> >> William Brown >> [noise cut] > > What versions of xorg-server & FreeBSD does that ('current' xorg pkg > doesn't need HAL) refer to ? TIA & have a happy new year :-) .... Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING and you'll find 20141219: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. All ports which provide X.Org drivers must be updated simultaneously, i.e. x11-drivers/xf86-*, emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions, net/tigervnc, etc. The input device autodetection backend is switched from HAL to devd. If you configure your keyboard layout through HAL .fdi files, you need to migrate this configuration to plain X.Org configuration files. Up-to-date instructions and a description of the changes brought by this update are detailed in a blog post: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-ready/ -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1