From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Dec 16 05:42:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF928C80D6F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 05:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799B81685 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 05:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBG5g9da099725 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:42:14 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBG5g21q079103 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:42:02 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id uBG5g2fX079102 for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:42:02 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:42:02 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <20161216054202.GC75755@server.rulingia.com> References: <20161208085926.GC2691@gmail.com> <3b00e76a-7a97-aa1b-72e9-236161044c3b@m5p.com> <20161215183122.GG5268@pol-server.leissner.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161215183122.GG5268@pol-server.leissner.se> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 05:42:20 -0000 --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-Dec-15 19:31:22 +0100, list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se wrote: >On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:18:05PM -0500, George Mitchell wrote: >> On 12/15/16 09:40, Warren Block wrote: >> > On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Matt Smith wrote: >> >=20 >> >> On Dec 08 05:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an >> >>> outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself.= So >> >>> use it or die. Not a nice situation. >> >> >> >> People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed from >> >> the handbook but have met with resistance. >> >=20 >> > Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no >> > equivalent replacement. [...] >>=20 >> Warren, you have hit the nail on the head. -- George > >+1 > >I never have problems with portmaster. I don't know about never - I think I managed to get it into a dependency loop once - but I've never had any issues that I could not resolve or that would entice me to look at an alternative. >(But portupgrade could at times be an utter mess, >I never looked back after switching to portmaster >many years ago.) Likewise, portupgrade would explode and shower my system with bits of corrupt database to often for comfort. At least part of that was caused by portupgrade depending on quite a few other ports and getting confused when it updated things whilst it was using them. >And I'm not at all interested in running poudriere >or synth, thank you. Interestingly, the most vocal proponent of deleting portmaster and portupgrade is the author/maintainer of synch. --=20 Peter Jeremy --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYU36qXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs056IQAI9MiJCegijnPGlx2FWiuj6g htRhXeqKp7K6440Te7ExtdSh4q6q2AbNpFRR4aoPEcnTS6nINaWr5A1nm9g8cCbr 0QJLSgQGMsjoPbFjsVeMQktK9w24u7AAcxKoX4A5P8Ab/UoNqy6p1O/WKhpO8vnT T9FeriefxgrMrkFhca3ltyqYf2s85443aiNj5wJv5NJ70ur3cB8zjoTI7xM9Ekvi 8MZZxrLy+zYD/E+J/tQXpl0COzJewuNFOUGzb4PX1GX6uTEsaz/J/CkOxjbVleN2 d/ofLjZqrDqARdQmzWp9Ac6BiSUpoP3GSsFebNTYOGRtEZuocLVhmnyPlI0rpt1h efMufaPSBt3L5Ap8Z8Q3+UgSaVKCaMSd6Qlk/Cd/v9rvBYkCwoIPEgxhnVOnD/kP kmxOWEi+BodeLx/pueG/s93p82Oy0h+EB8/lDueQw2ylyEk6StHz0kl4+vWtc6zk +KiLLMKwNJYImWB6xyhEc/doPKaNpFI6yY88NHdKuCRVEDeyT1E6j8x3Uaa7cNf7 LxspLllm/TfomGRQeWVLXQGMkEvgoFFv3qg0wOIquaxy+wL7uVbDyJddZ7G2yx+v Et80ogfRf5vaMXXH0Jq7FVhzDydAbGEEur80dpHbysNJlarNNI3t5r4LsdJgPg/o hPIBOAw2XjpwiXbC4M20 =uqfb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes--