From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 22:02:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCEE1065672 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@freebsd.org) Received: from c00l3r.networx.ch (c00l3r.networx.ch [62.48.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FB18FC20 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 83686 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2008 21:07:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by c00l3r.networx.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Apr 2008 21:07:34 -0000 Message-ID: <480BBD7E.8010700@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:02:38 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hills References: <20080420025010.GJ73016@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read() returns ETIMEDOUT on steady TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:02:39 -0000 Mark Hills wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> Can you give some more detail about your hardware (speed, CPU, >> available RAM, UP or SMP) and the application (roughly what does the >> core of the code look like and is it single-threaded/multi-threaded >> and/or multi-process). > > The current test is a Dell 2650, 2Gb, Quad Xeon with onboard bge. > > The application is single threaded, non-blocking multiplexed I/O based > on poll(). It's relatively simple at its core -- read() from an inbound > connection and write() to outbound sockets. > >>> As the number of outbound connections increases, the 'output drops' >>> increases to around 10% of the total packets sent and maintains that >>> ratio. >>> There's no problems with network capacity. >> >> 'output drops' (ips_odropped) means that the kernel is unable to >> buffer the write (no mbufs or send queue full). Userland should see >> ENOBUFS unless the error was triggered by a fragmentation request. > > The app definitely isn't seeing ENOBUFS; this would be treated as a > fatal condition and reported. TCP application will never see ENOBUFS. TCP tries to reliably deliver all data even on temporary memory shortages that prevent it from sending a segment right now. Only after all those retries failed it will report ETIMEDOUT and abort the connection. >> I can't explain the problem but it definitely looks like a resource >> starvation issue within the kernel. > > I've traced the source of the ETIMEDOUT within the kernel to > tcp_timer_rexmt() in tcp_timer.c: > > if (++tp->t_rxtshift > TCP_MAXRXTSHIFT) { > tp->t_rxtshift = TCP_MAXRXTSHIFT; > tcpstat.tcps_timeoutdrop++; > tp = tcp_drop(tp, tp->t_softerror ? > tp->t_softerror : ETIMEDOUT); > goto out; > } Yes, this is related to either lack of mbufs to create a segment or a problem in sending it. That may be full interface queue, a bandwidth manager (dummynet) or some firewall internally rejecting the segment (ipfw, pf). Do you run any firewall in stateful mode? > I'm new to FreeBSD, but it seems to implies that it's reaching a limit > of a number of retransmits of sending ACKs on the TCP connection > receiving the inbound data? But I checked this using tcpdump on the > server and could see no retransmissions. When you have internal problems the segment never makes it to the wire and thus you wont see it in tcpdump. Please report the output of 'netstat -s -p tcp' and 'netstat -m'. > As a test, I ran a simulation with the necessary changes to increase > TCP_MAXRXTSHIFT (including adding appropriate entries to > tcp_sync_backoff[] and tcp_backoff[]) and it appeared I was able to > reduce the frequency of the problem occurring, but not to a usable level. Possible causes are timers that fire too early. Resource starvation (you are doing a lot of traffic). Or of course some bug in the code. > With ACKs in mind, I took the test back to stock kernel and > configuration, and went ahead with disabling sack on the server and the > client which supplies the data (FreeBSD 6.1, not 7). This greatly > reduced the 'duplicate acks' metric, but didn't fix the problem. The > next step was to switch off delayed_ack as well, and I didn't see the > problem for some hours on the test system at 850mbit output. But hasn't > eliminated it, as it happened again. > > Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge can help to join the dots of > all these symptoms? -- Andre