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From: Ian Lepore To: Balanga Bar Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 17:07:49 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <693425711bdc5e7fbff22bb4056c33326fca8c4d.camel@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3A29484726 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.28.0.0/16, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 23:08:02 -0000 You say "All I want is updated instructions to build". Then you point out you managed to get a build done, and what you really want is support for a kernel panic. I'll reiterate: there is no support available anymore for these systems. The only reason the code still exists in freebsd is because some users reported they were still having some limited success using kirkwood-based systems (that was a year or two ago). Your report of mysterious panics is pretty much in line with what you'd expect for code that is no longer being maintained. It's a sad thing. I still use dreamplug systems myself, I have to for $work. But we run freebsd 8.2 on them, because that's the last version that I know was really stable. Everything later than that I've tried (even 8.4) fails in a variety of mysterious ways from panics to data corruption to failure of fsck to preen disks after a crash. -- Ian On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 09:10 +0100, Balanga Bar wrote: > All I'm really looking for is some update for a number of web pages > including https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSDMarvell > which show how to build FreeBSD for the platform. The build process > seems > to have changed somewhat over the last few years and instructions do > not > mention which version of FreeBSD is being used. > > Since I already have a couple of GoFlex Home units I would like to > try and > get FreeBSD installed on them. It seems that people managed to get > FreeBSD > working on these as long ago as seven years ago, so I'm only trying > to > recreate something that has already been done, but getting a working > build > installed is proving somewhat problematic. > > The most frustrating things is that when I manage to create a build > which > will boot, there is generally a kernel panic soon after, and the > system > will not subsequently boot and I don't know how to identify why this > occurred. > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 4:12 PM Ian Lepore wrote: > > > On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 06:23 +0000, Balanga Bar wrote: > > > Is anyone using any Marvell Kirkwood devices? > > > > > > I'm trying to build a reliable system, but am struggling to make > > > it > > > work. > > > Could do with some help on the correct way of building it. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To be honest, the Kirkwood stuff is all but completely unsupported > > at > > this point. A few people over the past few years have reported > > some > > success with it. My own experience is that no armv4 or v5 > > platforms > > have really worked reliably for many years. When it does work for > > people, they're just lucky that they're not running into any of the > > bugs that are known to exist in the old arm support. > > > > Basically the problem is resources: there is nobody both willing > > and > > able to support the old armv5 stuff anymore. The company I work > > for > > used to put their resources into supporting old arm chips, but > > we've > > moved on to armv7 stuff for the current products, so I don't get to > > spend $work hours on armv5 support anymore. > > > > So all in all, you're really better off with some newer armv7 or v8 > > (64-bit) hardware. It's cheaper and more powerful, but you do miss > > out > > on one thing that Kirkwood supported: dual GigE ports, which just > > don't > > seem to exist in the modern arm world. > > > > -- Ian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > "