Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:07:35 -0700 From: "Stephane Raimbault" <segr@hotmail.com> To: openjms-user@lists.sourceforge.net, java@freebsd.org Subject: OpenJMS doesn't seem to work on FreeBSD4.x but seems to work fine on FreeBSD5.x Message-ID: <Law10-F10vpX3dFjHOS0000eefb@hotmail.com>
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I've been trying to get OpenJMS running on FreeBSD 4.x with jdk 1.4.2 installed from the freebsd ports (java/jdk14). I noticed there was a problem when I couldn't run the shutdown.sh script to succesfully shutdown openjms on a FreeBSD 4.x box. Yet on a FreeBSD 5.x box with the same port installed I seem to have no problems. What could be causing my problems? It seems to start all right: jv2% ./startup.sh & [1] 49332 jv2% Using OPENJMS_HOME: /usr/home/sraimbault/openjms-0.7.6/ Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/ OpenJMS 0.7.6 The OpenJMS Group. (C) 1999-2004. All rights reserved. http://openjms.sourceforge.net jv2% Yet when I go to do a shutdown it seems to just hang: jv2% ./shutdown.sh -u admin -p openjms Using OPENJMS_HOME: /usr/home/sraimbault/openjms-0.7.6/ Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/ Here is the result of the "kill -QUIT <PID>" as mentioned to provide on the openjms page. jv2% kill -QUIT 49335 jv2% Full thread dump Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.2-p6-root_01_mar_2004_16_21 mixed mode): "EventManager-Worker-4" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08acda00 nid=0x8ad3000 in Object.wait() [8d21000..8d21cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2b288> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca2b288> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca2b288> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "EventManager-Worker-3" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08acd600 nid=0x8ad1c00 in Object.wait() [8c91000..8c91cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2b1a8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca2b1a8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca2b1a8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "EventManager-Worker-2" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08acd400 nid=0x8acec00 in Object.wait() [8c11000..8c11cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2b0c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca2b0c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca2b0c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "EventManager-Worker-1" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08acd000 nid=0x8ac5400 in Object.wait() [84c7000..84c7cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2afe8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca2afe8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca2afe8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "EventManager-Worker-0" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08a39800 nid=0x8ac5000 in Object.wait() [8456000..8456cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2af08> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca2af08> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca2af08> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "DestroyJavaVM" prio=5 tid=0x08078600 nid=0x8051000 waiting on condition [0..bfbfedd0] "RMI LeaseChecker" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08acd200 nid=0x8acf800 waiting on condition [8cd1000..8cd1cdc] at java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method) at sun.rmi.transport.DGCImpl$LeaseChecker.run(DGCImpl.java:307) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "RMI RenewClean-[127.0.0.1:2094]" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08a39e00 nid=0x8acb800 in Object.wait() [8c51000..8c51cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca2b598> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:111) - locked <0x2ca2b598> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at sun.rmi.transport.DGCClient$EndpointEntry$RenewCleanThread.run(DGCClient.java:500) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "GC Daemon" daemon prio=2 tid=0x08a39600 nid=0x8ac2c00 in Object.wait() [8bd1000..8bd1cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca20f58> (a sun.misc.GC$LatencyLock) at sun.misc.GC$Daemon.run(GC.java:100) - locked <0x2ca20f58> (a sun.misc.GC$LatencyLock) "RMI Reaper" prio=5 tid=0x08a39400 nid=0x8ac2000 in Object.wait() [8b91000..8b91cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c9edba8> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:111) - locked <0x2c9edba8> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:127) at sun.rmi.transport.ObjectTable$Reaper.run(ObjectTable.java:330) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "RMI TCP Accept-0" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08a39200 nid=0x8ac1c00 runnable [8b51000..8b51cdc] at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketAccept(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.accept(PlainSocketImpl.java:353) - locked <0x2ca20d48> (a java.net.PlainSocketImpl) at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:448) at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:419) at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.run(TCPTransport.java:334) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "LeaseManagerReaper" prio=5 tid=0x08a39000 nid=0x8a3a000 in Object.wait() [8abe000..8abecdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca16ef0> (a java.lang.Object) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.jms.lease.LeaseManager.run(LeaseManager.java:251) - locked <0x2ca16ef0> (a java.lang.Object) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler" prio=5 tid=0x0872ae00 nid=0x8a38400 in Object.wait() [8a7e000..8a7ecdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca16f18> (a java.util.LinkedList) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.jms.scheduler.Scheduler.next(Scheduler.java:270) - locked <0x2ca16f18> (a java.util.LinkedList) at org.exolab.jms.scheduler.Scheduler.run(Scheduler.java:240) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "EventManagerThread" prio=5 tid=0x0872aa00 nid=0x872fc00 in Object.wait() [8a37000..8a37cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c9f9830> (a java.lang.Object) at org.exolab.jms.events.BasicEventManager.run(BasicEventManager.java:277) - locked <0x2c9f9830> (a java.lang.Object) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "ThreadPoolManager" prio=5 tid=0x0872a800 nid=0x872f000 in Object.wait() [89f7000..89f7cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c9ed0b8> (a org.exolab.jms.threads.ThreadPoolManager) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.jms.threads.ThreadPoolManager.run(ThreadPoolManager.java:195) - locked <0x2c9ed0b8> (a org.exolab.jms.threads.ThreadPoolManager) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-9" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0872a600 nid=0x872dc00 in Object.wait() [89b5000..89b5cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17030> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17030> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17030> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-8" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0872a400 nid=0x872d000 in Object.wait() [8975000..8975cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca170c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca170c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca170c8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-7" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0872a200 nid=0x872c400 in Object.wait() [8935000..8935cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17160> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17160> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17160> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-6" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0872a000 nid=0x872b800 in Object.wait() [88f5000..88f5cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca171f8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca171f8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca171f8> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-5" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869ee00 nid=0x86e8c00 in Object.wait() [88b5000..88b5cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17290> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17290> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17290> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-4" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869ec00 nid=0x86e8000 in Object.wait() [8875000..8875cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17328> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17328> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17328> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-3" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869ea00 nid=0x86a6400 in Object.wait() [8835000..8835cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca173c0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca173c0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca173c0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-2" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869e800 nid=0x86a5800 in Object.wait() [87f5000..87f5cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17458> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17458> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17458> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-1" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869e600 nid=0x86a4c00 in Object.wait() [87b5000..87b5cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca174f0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca174f0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca174f0> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Scheduler-Worker-0" daemon prio=5 tid=0x0869e400 nid=0x86a4000 in Object.wait() [8775000..8775cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2ca17588> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.waitWhileEmpty(FifoQueue.java:308) - locked <0x2ca17588> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue.get(FifoQueue.java:207) - locked <0x2ca17588> (a org.exolab.core.util.FifoQueue) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.runWork(ThreadPoolWorker.java:176) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker.access$000(ThreadPoolWorker.java:67) at org.exolab.core.threadPool.ThreadPoolWorker$1.run(ThreadPoolWorker.java:122) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "[Missing message castor.misc.threadLocalDaemonName]" daemon prio=1 tid=0x0869e200 nid=0x86a2000 waiting on condition [8729000..8729cdc] at java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method) at org.exolab.core.util.FastThreadLocal.run(FastThreadLocal.java:381) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "PMD-LockManager" daemon prio=1 tid=0x085cec00 nid=0x860f800 waiting on condition [86e6000..86e6cdc] at java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method) at org.exolab.core.database.recman.LockManager.run(LockManager.java:203) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "RMI TCP Accept-1099" daemon prio=5 tid=0x085cea00 nid=0x860c000 runnable [8693000..8693cdc] at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketAccept(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.accept(PlainSocketImpl.java:353) - locked <0x2c9ec818> (a java.net.PlainSocketImpl) at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:448) at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:419) at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport.run(TCPTransport.java:334) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) "Thread-1" daemon prio=5 tid=0x085ce800 nid=0x85cc400 in Object.wait() [8653000..8653cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c9ec8f0> (a java.util.TaskQueue) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:403) - locked <0x2c9ec8f0> (a java.util.TaskQueue) at java.util.TimerThread.run(Timer.java:382) "Signal Dispatcher" daemon prio=10 tid=0x080fc800 nid=0x81ef800 waiting on condition [0..0] "Finalizer" daemon prio=8 tid=0x080fc600 nid=0x81aa800 in Object.wait() [81ea000..81eacdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c993150> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:111) - locked <0x2c993150> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:127) at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:159) "Reference Handler" daemon prio=10 tid=0x080fc400 nid=0x8166c00 in Object.wait() [81a9000..81a9cdc] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on <0x2c9931b8> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at java.lang.ref.Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Reference.java:115) - locked <0x2c9931b8> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock) "VM Thread" prio=5 tid=0x08079b00 nid=0x8125800 runnable "VM Periodic Task Thread" prio=10 tid=0x08168a00 nid=0x82b4000 waiting on condition "Suspend Checker Thread" prio=10 tid=0x08168800 nid=0x81edc00 runnable jv2% Is there anything else I can provide that might reveal this mystery? Thank you for your time, Stephane Raimbault _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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