From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 6 02:28:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20635 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20465 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26955; Wed, 6 May 1998 09:26:56 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id LAA04963; Wed, 6 May 1998 11:26:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980506112654.36055@follo.net> Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:26:54 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISA-PnP w\o BIOS support? References: <199805050809.BAA18863@usr02.primenet.com> <199805052218.PAA00828@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199805052218.PAA00828@antipodes.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, May 05, 1998 at 03:18:04PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 05, 1998 at 03:18:04PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > The fact that the card wants its own initialization, like any other > > > card in the world, does not mean it is not PnP, > > > > Sure it does. If it wants it's own init on top of the PnP BIOS > > configuration, the card is just "P". To be "nP", it has to actually > > "play" when you "plug" it. 8-). > > This fallaciously suggests that a PnP card requires no driver support. > > Whilst one might get this impression from most of the advertising > around these days, I regret to inform you that it's pretty uncommon. 8) That's just because what Microsoft happens to call PnP isn't, not by a long stretch. Decent PnP (like e.g. the Amiga had) don't need an external driver (the driver is in a EPROM on the card). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message