From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 4 17:17:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C02EE29A1 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E92D06937A for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: O0bGXWIVM1lkpBG2zkmEHt19lMrY8.Atm2pXF0_.vMqG_NhBbIDI3cVUuO6jv_6 MLQhUH13gPN6pOu7vdstrrbu4kp5_wQph4g.2.KkdkOWvHjrsl53yk0iuaTalOSg_1y80HERXmhR h.I3i4xB24JbiyqJdO4mOPhqEc0fFl9hTQ6rlZd0mKk7JMfzZQSSEF1sEcfLYkrBMuIhWAgzY33p ErAwIBTmExVSVowKRLcSys5nNQnFmNo2BtutA9FIwR0tED0D9.VJEy_EumHNeFxdOkaJ48jodbHE lCy5YE_a4Rd9M2swzIVetTNsPzkuCwmdKBf4upHt51q1OlRxM67rdZnCyryFLkwBtb3lO_1QnUNW hDHGhUWk5QDSubI.tC9GXfftB_aas0TwNe7vmdnt.nXOBjC8qQoy_rr3bYe0GjtbJ4OP87kf3vco BxBdEez0Vm7t3uQCDn1L0bPntDzo6XmJkFsZHHltslpIExHq_SCwWgg_mJtSkfBCSb46InSNv31S 4LruBDO6MNB9iEMSegQSGuGGt87K2hrhtDAgDMNg1W6xJlDVo Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 4 Feb 2018 17:17:02 +0000 Received: from smtp157.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (EHLO archlinux.localdomain) ([46.228.39.120]) by smtp404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID a6573fd17989ba1c13dad8c07f26ad4f; Sun, 04 Feb 2018 17:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 18:17:01 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Response to Meltdown and Spectre Message-ID: <20180204181701.77902546@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <58440.108.68.160.114.1517761271.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <23154.11945.856955.523027@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> <92120E50-19A7-4A44-90DF-505243D77259@kreme.com> <044e62f7-69ca-71fe-34a8-5c5cafc06f08@yahoo.com> <0520dd84-c00c-fbf2-da1c-f6ff4c63739d@yahoo.com> <20180203224612.GA10517@milliways.localdomain> <51178.108.68.160.114.1517699531.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <53029.108.68.160.114.1517707316.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20180204065648.1a73ec2a@archlinux.localdomain> <58440.108.68.160.114.1517761271.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0git24 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 17:17:05 -0000 On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 10:21:11 -0600 (CST), Valeri Galtsev wrote: >There is no good answer to that. We all are in crap, and whatever one >does leads to bad outcome. It is like zugzwang in chess. Apparently >you chose the other of two bads than I did ;-) Valeri, IMHO you are a smart person :).