From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 19:10:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9E1106566C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@wensing.org) Received: from mail.wensing.org (wensing.xs4all.nl [80.101.217.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8968FC0C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ares.wensing.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wensing.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86CB17052 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:52:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wensing.org Received: from mail.wensing.org ([127.0.0.1]) by ares.wensing.org (ares.wensing.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MUcVy2+6v1eq for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:52:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [192.168.1.14]) by mail.wensing.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 22B5A17045 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:52:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B71AED5.4030002@wensing.org> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:52:05 +0100 From: Andre Wensing User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Stable References: <4B6F9A8D.4050907@langille.org> <4B71490B.6030602@langille.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: hardware for home use large storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:10:12 -0000 Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > >> Charles Sprickman wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Dan Langille wrote: >>> >>>> Also, it seems like >>> people who use zfs (or gmirror + gstripe) generally end up buying pricey >>> hardware raid cards for compatibility reasons. There seem to be no decent >>> add-on SATA cards that play nice with FreeBSD other than that weird >>> supermicro card that has to be physically hacked about to fit. >>> >> They use software RAID and hardware RAID at the same time? I'm not sure >> what you mean by this. Compatibility with FreeBSD? >> >> Add-on (PCI-X/PCIe) RAID controllers tend to have solid drivers in FreeBSD. > Add-on SATA controllers not so much. The RAID controllers also tend to > support more SATA features like NCQ, hot-swap, monitoring, etc. They also > enable you to use the same hardware across OSes (FreeBSD, Linux, etc). > > For example, we use 3Ware controllers in all our servers, as they have good, > solid support under FreeBSD and Linux. On the Linux servers, we use > hardware RAID. On the FreeBSD servers, we use them as SATA controllers > (Single Disk arrays, not JBOD). Either way, the management is the same, the > drivers are the same, the support is the same. > > It's hard to find good, non-RAID, SATA controllers with solid FreeBSD > support, and good throughput, with any kind of management/monitoring > features. > And I thought I found one in the Adaptec 1405 Integrated SAS/SATA controller, because it's marketed as an inexpensive SAS/SATA non-RAID addon-card. On top of that, they advertise it as having FreeBSD6 and FreeBSD7-support and drivers. So I ordered it for my storage-box (FreeNAS) with great expectations. Sadly, they don't have support nor drivers for FreeBSD ("drivers will be released Q4 2009") at all, so I'm thinking of leaving FreeNAS and trying some linux-flavor that does support this card... But Adaptec doesn't have a great track-record for FreeBSD-support, does it? André Wensing