From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 20:52:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D357416A4CE; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:52:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5076543D1D; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:52:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IF20025Q4EMRM10@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:47:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dsa.des.no ([80.203.228.37]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IF200A6Q4Q1PH70@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dsa.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id E5533EBE55; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (xps.des.no [10.0.0.12]) by dsa.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 3D248EBE2B; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0583933C39; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:52:43 +0200 From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-reply-to: <20050416150810.GD5452@empiric.icir.org> To: Bruce M Simpson Message-id: <86ll7i30mc.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on dsa.des.no References: <20050415173711.I658@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20050416150810.GD5452@empiric.icir.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: Harti Brandt Subject: Re: De-orbitting ATM-HARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:52:51 -0000 Bruce M Simpson writes: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 05:41:57PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: > > While there I would also remove everything from netnatm that is > > not needed by NgATM. This is mainly the socket interface. I'm not > > aware of any application that uses it. Any thoughts on this? > Oh. Don't remove that. Userland PPP needs it. People who are using > ADSL modems of any kind will still need it. Uh? PPP uses netgraph, which has its own socket thingy. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no