Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:03:23 -0500 From: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com> To: Peter Philipp <pjp@dega.daemonium.com> Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_fxp - the real point Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20010330123625.03db9610@mail.etinc.com> In-Reply-To: <20010330104024.B2589@dega.daemonium.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010329212102.03dc5ac0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010328165848.03e9bcd0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010329183557.030eeda0@mail.etinc.com> <3AC3D152.7D0FD148@soekris.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010329212102.03dc5ac0@mail.etinc.com>
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At 10:40 AM 03/30/2001, you wrote: >On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:40:05PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > Im sure that Intel is really sweating over your decision. > >I think they should. When people realise they are buying into something >tainted and undisclosed only open to an 'elite' crowd (like dennis) >then people will look elsewhere. Its only "tainted" in the minds of "source weenies". Your thinking is not mainstream. Your implication that a company with teams of marketing and legal gurus is just so naive about the freebsd market that they dont "get it" is comical. I know you dont want to hear this, but "hackers" are generally undesirable customers. They complain a lot, think they know everything, refuse to read documentation (mainly because they are used to not having any)...so "losing" their business isnt that unprofitable. do you think that the MSCE at some big company that buys our FreeBSD-based firewall/bandwidth manager complains daily about there being no GUI support for divert functions? Or that it doesnt have the latest version of ssh? Nope. They are just happy that they got what the paid for, a nice firewall that controls their bandwidth. And guess what? They also dont whine about not getting discounts because they are an "isp" or a "reseller" or a "good guy". They pay the same price and dont complain. Thats a model customer. Im 100% sure that there arent discussions in the board rooms at General Motors about using Servers with realtek ethernet controllers because intel requires an NDA for disclosure of their eepro100. Intel DOES release the info, they just dont want YOU to release it. You can write a driver, and you can sell it, you just cant give away the info. That serves the mainstream community. And thats where the money is. If you stop writing drivers for FreeBSD for intel products, guess what? Someone else will write one and make a lot of money off of it. So you are just going to create opportunities for the very people you hate, the capitalists. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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