From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Aug 25 04:01:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A193BBDA9 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 04:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [174.136.98.114]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BbFfp6hbWz3WQq for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 04:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [192.168.1.160] (cpe-23-243-161-111.socal.res.rr.com [23.243.161.111]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 516c2b6d (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 25 Aug 2020 04:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: What are my options regarding deprecated PyPy port? To: Kevin Oberman , figosdev Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" References: From: Pete Wright Message-ID: <4eef2ee6-6fd1-7383-5031-597ff8a364f1@nomadlogic.org> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:01:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BbFfp6hbWz3WQq X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@nomadlogic.org designates 174.136.98.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@nomadlogic.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.24 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nomadlogic.org]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[23.243.161.111:received]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.03)[0.032]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.50)[-0.495]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,protonmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 04:01:39 -0000 On 8/24/20 8:05 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:50 PM figosdev via freebsd-ports < > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> Hi, I'm new to FreeBSD-- I installed it for the first time this week. >> Honestly, so far it has exceeded expectations. >> >> I installed X11, but the first thing I installed was PyPy2. >> >> Unlike CPython2, which is EOL'd, PyPy2 does not to the best of my >> knowledge depend on CPython. When I installed it with pkg, it said the port >> was deprecated and will be removed from ports soon-- but it also said it >> was based on Python 2.7 (which is EOLd). >> >> I think there is a misunderstanding there. PyPy states the intention to >> continue to maintain that version. >> >> Removing this port is unnecessary. Aware of the politics around this >> (which go way over FreeBSD anyway) I doubt I will convince someone to save >> this port, sadly. >> >> I've used both Python 2.x and 3.x for years now. If this problem can't be >> fixed, can I at least be put in touch with the current port maintainer so >> that I can learn how to maintain this as a 3rd party package for my own use? >> >> I'm certain I'm not up to becoming an official port maintainer at this >> stage, but I'd like to be able to at least compile and run PyPy2 on freebsd >> without redoing the ports work that was already done on this. >> > Looks like the deprecation might have been in error. While I can't be sure, > it looks like it is in no way dependent on python27 and, if it is > maintained, it probably was deprecated in error. Probably someone in the > python group saw the 2.7 references and tagged it for deprecation. > > You probably should start by contacting python@ and, if there is no > response, open a ticket on bugzilla pointing this out and requesting that > the deprecation be reversed. i agree - it looks like someone needs to refactor lang/pypy which seems to build against python2.7. there is a pypy3 port/pkg as well, but that seems to be incorrectly flagged as being deprecated according to freshports. i searched bugzilla too but only found an open cleanup ticket there: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245747 -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA