From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Feb 4 12:48:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19196 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19122 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from ics.com (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id PAA28246 Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:47:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BA0774.13496EC3@ics.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:47:48 -0500 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig and libraries References: <199901311851.KAA07228@vashon.polstra.com> <199902040322.TAA18413@vashon.polstra.com> <199902041920.LAA19846@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > you're the fellow demanding that > "ldconfig must die" and then looking to the FreeBSD development team > to make the change (against the loudly expressed wishes of the vast > majority of our users) and take the heat for it. ROTFLMAO. You (collectively) don't have any trouble taking the heat for, e.g. the lack of SVR4-style rc/init, event though some number of people want it. You're telling me you listen to your users, but when a user (me) tells you something, you respond with "shut up, we don't want to hear what our users are telling us." Which is it, are you listening or not? Where do you (collectively) make a stand, put your foot down, and say, it's a bad idea, or redundant, or whatever the case may be and refuse to do something? For the five-plus years I've subscribed to this list I've seen plenty of evidence that "heat from the vast majority of your users" is rarely a factor in making a technical decision. > OK, I'm not your Dr. Laura. Oh, that's really clever. I suppose I should be happy you're not telling me I don't know how to read a spec or something similar. So, since you listen to your users, we'll be seeing SVR4-style rc/init in 3.1, right? -- Kaleb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message