From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Jan 22 18:05:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1F8ECD118; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.blih.net", Issuer "mail.blih.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17F6C2A38; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 613995bb; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:04:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=5RzWa9Qjn42wXa1GtJRD1uAqsrw=; b=Vf/gSkWcXENhn0rDRtNpYZfMqq9q e7NzYtOGuf3YnD7wGFX+RklJ9Jf98/8u//0gwaojfO1+WeLgZWflzRjGGLs8VMST eRIiI6Ojrp0QcM8zeLgswu4SXoMjPJF8Wl35W6CbtVDmmxBOJx+1S6Vgffp7SKaf ltMlm8SK0+JaNto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=bidouilliste.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= mail; b=DJym8rAfoxDBbEgMhd/yoUFxzS+njnXk5Ml85WOA5eWKCAHgl/jkuosX QA/CgWX85CQL5Wzr8h2bLUBrDUgeCPJftg9PBkoQpi7SuEjBbW19jpPeULkpw5gh p2SQ2v8xsl5cHutP9EpATS1qlYU7IuZUznEllEOOR1ZWAU2+XPs= Received: from arcadia.home.blih.net (ip-9.net-89-3-105.rev.numericable.fr [89.3.105.9]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 2935b70e TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:04:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:04:54 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r328257 - in head/sys: arm/broadcom/bcm2835 dts/arm modules Message-Id: <20180122190454.7d71e565259ca721d705ce38@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <88556.1516636361@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <201801220710.w0M7AUm9091853@repo.freebsd.org> <20180122135905.203e19ce94510854777dff63@bidouilliste.com> <88070.1516628327@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180122145117.08173be547f5dd6fef296732@bidouilliste.com> <88258.1516630050@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com> <88556.1516636361@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:05:00 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:41 +0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > -------- > In message <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com>, Emmanuel > Vadot writes: > > >[...] there is no way to > >know what the user will do so every node not used by the SBC must be > >disabled. > > [...] until the user explicitly tells us, for instance with the command: > > kldload /boot/kernel/bcm283x_pwm.ko > > I'm not sure who was the first to run 386BSD on a laptop 25 years > ago, I was certainly one of the first five. 25 years ago I was trying to finish Ghouls and Ghosts on my Sega Megadrive and had no idea what BSD was. Now I write code for FreeBSD for arm SoCs which is not a violation of how stuff works. Time isn't always relevant. > Ever since then our explicit goal has been to *not* require reboots > for reconfiguration, unless there was no way to avoid it. Nothing > you or the "DT guys" can say, can convince me that we should reverse > that course. > > I don't care how it works, but enabling and using PWM on an > out-of-the-box RPi should not require a reboot. But you are not providing a good way to do it, this is a selfish commit because you just want to use PWM on your RPI and this is not how we should do things in FreeBSD. > Over&Out P.S.: I still can't finish Ghouls And Ghosts, someone please help me. -- Emmanuel Vadot