From owner-freebsd-security Mon Sep 3 7:30:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f220.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0237B405 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 07:30:47 -0700 Received: from 200.212.177.158 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:30:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.212.177.158] From: "Not Going to Tell You" To: security@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:30:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 14:30:47.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[05CADC40:01C13485] Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not obfuscation! This is activation and de=activation. Obfuscation implies that the port is open but you are hidden this fact. Lucky >From: "Carroll, D. (Danny)" >To: "Alfred Perlstein" >CC: >Subject: RE: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. >Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:17:20 +0200 > >Yeah but Obfuscation PLUS good security does not hurt, in fact it helps. >Just so long as you don't *rely* on it. > > >:-----Original Message----- >:From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@mu.org] >:Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:53 PM >:To: Rob Simmons >:Cc: Eric Anderson; Not Going to Tell You; security@freebsd.org >:Subject: Re: Possible New Security Tool For FreeBSD, Need Your Help. >: >: >:* Rob Simmons [010831 16:51] wrote: >:> Why not require the incoming packets to be spoofed from a >:preordained set >:> of IP addresses to obfuscate it even more. >: >:Obfuscation isn't security, it is the illusion of it. >: >:-- >:-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] >:'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," >:start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' >: >:To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >:with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message >: >----------------------------------------------------------------- >ATTENTION: >The information in this electronic mail message is private and >confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you >receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that >any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this >message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by >reply transmission and delete the message without copying or >opening it. > >Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. >If this message contains password-protected attachments, the >files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. >Always scan attachments before opening them. >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message