From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jan 21 15:09:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA20660 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA20649 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA19477; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:07:05 -0800 (PST) To: Terry Lambert cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Commerical applications (was: Development and validation In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:15:55 MST." <199701212115.OAA20003@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:07:05 -0800 Message-ID: <19473.853888025@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A weighted democracy would be one open-ended growth soloution, as > long as parametric changes could be made within the system. I have > suggested this before. A trivial napkin drawing version: The complexity of this scheme mitigates heavily against its long-term success, as you might phrase it, and there are so many holes in the concept that I can hardly even begin to cite them. First off it's complex, so someone (you?) would have to write a FAQ and explain this byzantine process to each and every newcomer. There is also no clear picture of how these "tokens" accumulate. Over time? With commits? Because someone likes you? Who runs the votes and decides which matters are voted on? Voters also don't write bills, they just vote on existing ones - who writes the bills and takes care of introducing them? What if no "bills" are generated - does the project just idle along or are people allowed to still make changes? What sorts of changes? When is a change considered a "bug fix" and when is it considered something worthy of voting on? Who decides this in cases where there is dissent about the vote-worthiness of an issue (since there would be some overhead in writing and presenting the bill), do you have a vote on a vote? :-) Lastly, who do we get to work on the project when all the existing members quit in disgust over all this goddamn make-work which has suddenly entered their lives. Like most political systems weighted heavily towards bureaucracy, this looks almost plausible on paper but is virtually guaranteed to be an unmitigated disaster when put into practice. Try again, and this time with a grounding strap firmly attached please. Jordan