From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 16:42:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E007A335 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu [18.9.25.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A4BF21B6 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 1209190e-f79946d000000c39-cf-53909cbc6b34 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) (using TLS with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id D1.12.03129.CBC90935; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id s55GbFtE001439; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:37:15 -0400 Received: from multics.mit.edu (system-low-sipb.mit.edu [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id s55GbDvj032428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:37:14 -0400 Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id s55GbDtv000636; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:37:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: John Kozubik Subject: Re: There is currently no usable release of FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <18771.1401901640@critter.freebsd.dk> <19839.1401922026@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrDIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrrtnzoRgg4uNghbbN/9jtDj75S+T A5PHjE/zWTxmfr3NHMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJVxaNlzloLdzBUvWuayNjBeYepi5OSQEDCR +PBrKiOELSZx4d56ti5GLg4hgdlMEpMWf2eGcDYwSnyZtJ4RwjnIJHFx6ntmkBYhgXqJea+6 wUaxCGhJvNt3jQ3EZhNQkZj5ZiOQzcEhIqAs8e59OkiYWUBe4sLmQ2DbhAVsJU49mgxWzglk X95/gh3E5hVwlPi8ZBMLxPhXjBLTF9mD2KICOhKr909hgagRlDg58wkLxExLiXN/rrNNYBSc hSQ1C0lqASPTKkbZlNwq3dzEzJzi1GTd4uTEvLzUIl1jvdzMEr3UlNJNjKBA5ZTk28H49aDS IUYBDkYlHt6A/gnBQqyJZcWVuYcYJTmYlER5j80ACvEl5adUZiQWZ8QXleakFh9ilOBgVhLh TYwCyvGmJFZWpRblw6SkOViUxHnfWlsFCwmkJ5akZqemFqQWwWRlODiUJHi/zQZqFCxKTU+t SMvMKUFIM3FwggznARp+B6SGt7ggMbc4Mx0if4pRUUqc9x9IQgAkkVGaB9cLSySvGMWBXhHm fQZSxQNMQnDdwKAF+kiEd3NRL8jgkkSElFQDo5n925gTE7folrH/WnNue7zgr1fLNXLfOuYl +l0Jn/hxzYXLbrNaF7jaRi3dflR4pU12scPds01Prqg7+7TIZh5k3C06j8PptejnSSxHcg/1 2/HoML/wPBvwlmXe4Y86/4IOu/1earglSsS9x19+J8/jiKWvlz3oVxBgVV4fePqtvVfkW43u OCWW4oxEQy3mouJEACEz4+7/AgAA Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 16:42:25 -0000 On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, John Kozubik wrote: > I don't even care which one! Any of them! Just give us a release that we > can grow into and not find ourselves at "legacy" two years later, at 9.2. In this instance, all that the "legacy" word meant was that there had been a release with a larger major version number. Which (having a new major release, that is) may well be a good thing; the linguistic ambiguity, less so. -Ben