From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 27 23:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7D716A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B61943D31 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:48:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050327234806.UVGN7277.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:48:06 -0500 From: To: , Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:48:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200503272250.PAA01070@quail.sorsby.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:48:08 -0000 Use your 3.4 FreeBSD system or a win system to download the mini.iso file for 4.11 and then burn it to cd. Boot your box from the 4.11 mini newly created cd and accept the default slice sizes, select not to install the ports collection. The ports collection is over 3000 strong now and some are variations of same base port. You are being foolish to select all ports as that is unnecessary and a gross waist of disk space. After base install is complete then select the ports you want and install separately. You are way back level and there has been great changes in the system and the sysinstall process. Read and follow this Install guide for step by step instructions for 4.11 release as it's the same as 4.10. http://freebsd.packards-home.net/index.php Yes FreeBSD CAN be installed on the fourth of four SCSI disk drives on the second of two SCSI cards, but if you have other operating systems on those other disks you will have to manual update the MBR (master boot record) multi boot program on the HD the PC bios point to for selecting which operating system you want to boot from. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charlie Sorsby Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 5:51 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help! Every time I turn round, someone is telling me that I should update to a more recent version of freeBSD. Each time I try, I encounter nothing but trouble. Before I even begin: *CAN* freeBSD be installed on the fourth of four SCSI disk drives on the second of two SCSI cards? I know of no way to record the error messages other than with pencil and paper -- not a very efficient method in this computer age, especially when one is in the throes of frustration. I tried some time ago, updating to 4.5, the latest version for which I have a CDROM. When I encountered problems and queried this list, I received a message to the effect that the installer should quit working after X years. Perhaps that was tongue in cheek but it was singularly unhelpful. So, I continued to use 3.4 which, aside from the fact that I can't add anything new or update any ports or ... has stood me in good stead for years. Finally getting tired of using netscape 4.76 -- I've been unsuccessful at finding any "modern" browser that I can install under 3.4 -- and having it crashed by "modern" web sites, I decided to try again. I fetched the floppy images for 4.11 -- I have no interest in 5.x, 4.x is far enough removed from real BSD that I wouldn't go that route it I had a choice. Busy with other things, I finally got round to trying an ftp install today. Before I proceed, I suppose that I'd best tell you what my system comprises: M'board: Intel D845WN CPU: P4, 2.4GHz, 478, 512K, 400MHz FSB Memory: Crucial 512MB, 168-pin, DIMM 64Mx64, PC133 SDRAM Case: Antec Sonata with Antec "TruePower" supply. SCSI cards (presently, the Adaptec is in the PCI slot closer to the CPU): Adaptec 2940 Tekram DC-390U2W Ethernet; Intel PRO100S Disk drives (The first three are on the 2940, the fourth on the Tekram): IBM DORS-32160 WA0A, 2GB (from original system, with leftover freeBSD 2.1.5 stuff, no longer bootable.) Seagate ST34501N 0015, 4GB (with freeBSD 3.4) Seagate ST39216N 0010, 9GB (/home -- no OS) Seagate ST318517W 0105, 18GB (on which I tried to install 4.5 before and 4.11 today. CDROM drive: Plextor (don't recall specs.) Video card: Matrox Millennium G400, AGP4X, 32MB SGRAM Oh -- FWIW, I'm also running XFree86 4.1.0 although that should not be relevant to the installation problem but, like the feller says, for the sake of completeness... (I'll append -- at the end of this message -- dmesg from latest boot after unsuccessful installation to cover anything that I've forgotten. This system has simply evolved over the years.) I hope I won't forget any parts of this; I had to get back to 3.4 in order to be able to do this e-mail. I got through the fdisk and disklabel (re)configuration of the fourth disk onto which I planned to install freeBSD 4.11 (having selected "Standard Install") Here's what I tried to set up as (Unix) partitions (remember this is on the 18GB drive): / 128MB # Thought this should be more than enough swap 512MB /usr 4196MB /var 512MB /usr/local 4196MB /tmp 512MB /spare # Everything else -- to be disposed of later. I then proceeded to choose the installation "package" or whatever it's called -- I chose "ALL" and then replied yes to the query about installing the ports collection. I believe that the next query was the choice of installation medium; I chose (the first) ftp and the first (ftp.freebsd.org?) server in the list and fetching the bits and pieces began. Within a very few minutes, the installer complained that it had run out of space on / -- why it would have tried to fetch everything to the root partition is beyond me but that's what it said. Oh -- there was one previous complaint about not being able to create a swap partition that I'd requested as partition b. I don't understand that, either. Aside (just in case it may be relevant): Recently, I've not been able to boot the CDROM. I had no reason to try when I rebuilt the system some time ago with the Intel m'board and Antec case. I first noticed it some time ago when I tried to install 4.5. I had never had a problem with the old Gigabyte m'board system. As I said, I don't know if this is relevant but thought I'd better mention it just in case. Here's the dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #6: Tue Jun 29 08:43:56 MDT 2004 root@quail.sorsby.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERNEL.CRS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2392250892 Hz CPU: unknown (2392.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff,,,MMX,FXSR,,, ,,,> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) config> di wdc1 config> di wdc0 config> q avail memory = 519696384 (507516K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e4000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e409c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x05 on pci0.30.0 chip3: rev 0x05 on pci0.31.0 uhci0: rev 0x05 int d irq 11 on pci0.31.2 (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086) uhci1: rev 0x05 int c irq 11 on pci0.31.4 (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x04 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci2.10.0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ncr0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci2.11.0 fxp0: rev 0x0c int a irq 10 on pci2.12.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:eb:02:ba Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,DW-PCL,DYN,DESKJET lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface usb0: uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered usb1: uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: device problem, disabling port 2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da1s1a da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 17547MB (35937500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2237C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) Thank you for any help you may be able to provide. Kindest regards, Charlie -- Charlie Sorsby crs@swcp.com P. O. Box 1225 Edgewood, NM 87015 USA _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"